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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>
To: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
Cc: "lenb@kernel.org" <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas, Sujith" <sujith.thomas@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] acpi: move thermal trip handling to generic thermal layer
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:12:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081217031215.GC19430@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1229482938.562.29.camel@rzhang-dt>

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:02:18AM +0800, Zhang Rui wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 20:59 +0800, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > They're needed if you want to implement any sort of sensible 
> > implementation of passive cooling. They might not be expressed in quite 
> > the same way, but the basic concept is identical.
> 
> Seeing tc1, tc2, tsp under /sys/class/thermal/ is not good because we
> don't want to make the generic thermal driver too ACPI specific, before
> we've really concluded some basic concepts for passive cooling.
> so why not do this after we have another generic thermal user with
> passive cooling support?

They're not exposed in /sys/class, and I don't think doing so is a 
sensible thing to do. If you know values for the hardware in question 
then they should be supplied by the firmware. But even so, the generic 
thermal layer needs a way of implementing passive cooling. Doing so 
involves deriving a formula to describe the behaviour of the system 
around the passive trip level, and the best used implementation of that 
in Linux at the moment is the one described in the ACPI spec. I don't 
see any real need to generate new terms to describe well documented 
concepts, even if other implementations don't use ACPI.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-17  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-27 17:48 [PATCH] thermal: use integers rather than strings for thermal values Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 17:49 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-28  2:52   ` Zhang Rui
2009-01-16 13:44     ` Thomas Renninger
2008-12-03 17:55   ` [PATCH] acpi: move thermal trip handling to generic thermal layer Matthew Garrett
2008-12-03 18:00     ` [PATCH] thermal: support forcing support for passive cooling Matthew Garrett
2008-12-17  3:19       ` Zhang Rui
2008-12-28 15:22       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-01-06 22:42         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-13  1:21           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-20 23:45       ` Len Brown
2008-12-08  6:59     ` [PATCH] acpi: move thermal trip handling to generic thermal layer Zhang Rui
2008-12-08 12:59       ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-17  3:02         ` Zhang Rui
2008-12-17  3:12           ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2009-01-16 13:48             ` Thomas Renninger
2009-02-20 16:53               ` Len Brown
2009-02-20 23:44     ` Len Brown
2009-02-20 15:56 ` [PATCH] thermal: use integers rather than strings for thermal values Len Brown

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