From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] Use WRITE_SYNC in __block_write_full_page() if WBC_SYNC_ALL
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:02:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090105080241.GX32491@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090104151927.1f1603c6.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Sun, Jan 04 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:43:51 -0500 Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 02:23:03PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > Following up with an e-mail thread started by Arjan two months ago,
> > > > (subject: [PATCH] Give kjournald a IOPRIO_CLASS_RT io priority), I have
> > > > a patch, just sent to linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, which fixes the jbd2
> > > > layer to submit journal writes via submit_bh() with WRITE_SYNC.
> > > > Hopefully this might be enough of a priority boost so we don't have to
> > > > force a higher I/O priority level via a buffer_head flag. However,
> > > > while looking through the code paths, in ordered data mode, we end up
> > > > flushing data pages via the page writeback paths on a per-inode basis,
> > > > and I noticed that even though we are passing in
> > > > wbc.sync_mode=WBC_SYNC_ALL, __block_write_full_page() is using
> > > > submit_bh(WRITE, bh) instead of submit_bh(WRITE_SYNC).
> > >
> > > But this is all the wrong way to fix the problem, isn't it?
> > >
> > > The problem is that at one particular point, the current transaction
> > > blocks callers behind the committing transaction's IO completion.
> > >
> > > Did anyone look at fixing that? ISTR concluding that a data copy and
> > > shadow-bh arrangement might be needed.
> >
> > I haven't had time to really drill down into the jbd code yet, and
> > yes, eventually we probably want to do this.
>
> We do.
>
> > Still, if we are
> > submitting I/O which we are going to end up waiting on, we really
> > should submit it with WRITE_SYNC, and this patch should optimize
> > writes in other situations; for example, if we fsync() a file, we will
> > also end up calling block_write_full_page(), and so supplying the
> > WRITE_SYNC hint to the block layer would be a Good Thing.
>
> Is it? WRITE_SYNC means "unplug the queue after this bh/BIO". By setting
> it against every bh, don't we risk the generation of more BIOs and
> the loss of merging opportunities?
But it also implies that the io scheduler will treat the IO as sync even
if it is a write, which seems to be the very effect that Ted is looking
for as well.
Perhaps we should seperate it into two behavioural flags instead and
make the unplugging explicit.
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Jens Axboe
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-05 8:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-04 21:52 [PATCH, RFC] Use WRITE_SYNC in __block_write_full_page() if WBC_SYNC_ALL Theodore Ts'o
2009-01-04 22:23 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-04 22:43 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-04 22:43 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-04 23:19 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-05 0:21 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-05 8:02 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2009-01-05 14:47 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-05 15:58 ` Jens Axboe
2009-01-05 18:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-05 19:35 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-05 19:38 ` Jens Axboe
2009-01-05 21:16 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-06 7:34 ` Jens Axboe
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