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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Grzegorz Nosek <root-AfQBxy1nhrQ00sYp1HPQUA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] IP address restricting cgroup subsystem
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:32:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090107193234.GA22625@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090107191536.GA15159-yp6mvK3Bdd2rDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Grzegorz Nosek (root@localdomain.pl):
> On śro, sty 07, 2009 at 12:07:52 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > Have you run a test, and found that in fact a network namespace
> > is too heavyweight to do so?  If so, some numbers here would be
> > far more pursuasive.
> 
> Is "how long it took me to set up and document this" a valid benchmark?
> No, I haven't run any tests yet. However, the overhead I'm thinking of
> isn't only related to raw speed, but also includes administrative tasks.
> 
> Overall, I'd like to have an environment where users are grouped in
> containers but still have them slightly isolated from each other (things
> outside normal Unix restrictions include e.g. not seeing others'
> processes or not being able to step on their resources--like the IP
> address assigned). In the end, I'd like to have up to a dozen or a few
> "big" containers and hundreds+ of per-user cgroups (without additional
> namespace divisions) per machine. Do you think a bridge together with
> several hundred veths in the root namespace won't confuse admin tools
> (or the admins themselves)? Or should I use macvlan for that, or
> possibly something else altogether?
> 
> I'll try to get some numbers but my current dev. machine is a VMware
> instance on my laptop and that runs rather abysmally, so they'll be
> probably skewed one way or another.
> 
> > (Mind you I've written a few version of this - based on LSM -
> > myself in the past, but that was before network namespaces
> > existed)
> 
> Best regards,
>  Grzegorz Nosek

Does anyone else (Eric? Pavel?) have experience with hundreds
or thousands of network namespaces?

-serge
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-07 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-06 23:05 [RFC][PATCH] IP address restricting cgroup subsystem Grzegorz Nosek
     [not found] ` <20090106230554.GB25228-IaEwMO9oKu/77SC2UrCW1JJg/dWx8T/9@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07  6:01   ` Li Zefan
     [not found]     ` <49644526.8030205-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07  7:38       ` Grzegorz Nosek
2009-01-07  8:36         ` Li Zefan
2009-01-07  9:16           ` Grzegorz Nosek
2009-01-07  9:33             ` Li Zefan
2009-01-07  9:37               ` Grzegorz Nosek
2009-01-09 21:38               ` [Devel] " Paul Menage
2009-01-10  4:50                 ` Li Zefan
2009-01-10 16:14                   ` Paul Menage
2009-01-12  2:20                     ` Li Zefan
2009-01-14  2:07                       ` Paul Menage
2009-01-14  2:47                         ` Li Zefan
2009-01-14  2:50                           ` Paul Menage
2009-01-07 18:07   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20090107180752.GA19153-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07 19:15       ` Grzegorz Nosek
     [not found]         ` <20090107191536.GA15159-yp6mvK3Bdd2rDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07 19:32           ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
     [not found]             ` <20090107193234.GA22625-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-08 12:43               ` Benny Amorsen
     [not found]                 ` <20090109144122.GA9685@megiteam.pl>
     [not found]                   ` <20090109162247.GA7925@us.ibm.com>
     [not found]                     ` <20090109162247.GA7925-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-09 16:57                       ` Grzegorz Nosek
2009-01-09 16:54               ` Dan Smith
     [not found]                 ` <87priwifnu.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-09 17:43                   ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                     ` <20090109174334.GA4526-gvzKVTG1yJJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-09 18:12                       ` Dan Smith
     [not found]                         ` <87ljtkic1j.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-09 22:37                           ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                             ` <20090109223756.GA22738-gvzKVTG1yJJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-09 22:47                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                 ` <20090109224742.GA15227-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-09 23:37                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2009-01-09 18:30                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20090109183046.GA14063-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-13 16:23                       ` Dan Smith
2009-01-09 21:58   ` [Devel] " Paul Menage
     [not found]     ` <6599ad830901091358m11effdbegeff6cbb7ee28e262-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-10 11:20       ` Grzegorz Nosek
     [not found]         ` <20090110112009.GA12336-yp6mvK3Bdd2rDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-10 16:21           ` Paul Menage
     [not found]             ` <6599ad830901100821q2c943d38i314c00f7db51b4f0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-11  0:25               ` Benny Amorsen
2009-01-11 10:19               ` Grzegorz Nosek
     [not found]                 ` <20090111101946.GA14325-yp6mvK3Bdd2rDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-14  2:21                   ` Paul Menage

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