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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Brian Rogers <brian@xyzw.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [BUG] How to get real-time priority using idle priority
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:31:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090114053106.GA10410@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1231910014.610.14.camel@marge.simson.net>


* Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 03:58 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 17:05 -0800, Brian Rogers wrote:
> 
> > > I'll try Mike's "more complete" patch on top of 2.6.29-rc1 and see what 
> > > that does.
> > 
> > Don't bother.  I just tried a SCHED_IDLE make -j8 and had character
> > repeats while typing.  Must be another spot.
> 
> Hrmph, what an annoying problem.  The below works pretty well, but 
> _still_ has latency problems in some circumstances.
> 
> The more I look at this, the more I think these guys _really_ want to be 
> a separate class.  The problem is the incredible rate of min_vruntime 
> advancement creating absurdly huge spreads.
> 
> Hm, maybe I could advance min_vruntime at nice 0 when these guys are 
> running, only advance their vruntime at warp 512, but that seems awfully 
> hackish.  If they were a separate class, they could use the full nice 
> spectrum instead of being merely mega-nice.

A separate class has its own set of problems: starvation, etc.

What about increasing the weight of SCHED_IDLE tasks from 1 to 2 or 3? 
That still makes them mega-nice (which is more than enough), but should 
make the math a lot less borderline.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-14  5:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-11 10:58 [BUG] How to get real-time priority using idle priority Brian Rogers
2009-01-12  5:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-12 13:03   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-12 13:14     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 15:23       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-12 15:24         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-13  1:05       ` Brian Rogers
2009-01-13  2:58         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-14  5:13           ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-14  5:31             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-01-14  6:02               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-14  7:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-15  9:28         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-15 10:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-15 10:30             ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-15 11:37               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-01-15 11:41                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-15 12:54                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-15 13:05                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-15 13:15                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-15 13:16                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-15 12:07           ` Brian Rogers
2009-01-12 20:46     ` [patch take 2] " Mike Galbraith
2009-01-12 20:50       ` Mike Galbraith

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