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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [rfc] fsync_range?
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:59:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090121045921.GA3944@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090121041604.GI24891@wotan.suse.de>

Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 03:15:00AM +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > Nick Piggin wrote:
> > An additional couple of flags to sync_file_range() would sort out the
> > API:
> > 
> >    SYNC_FILE_RANGE_METADATA
> > 
> >       Commit the file metadata such as modification time and
> >       attributes.  Think fsync() versus fdatasync().
> 
> Note that the problems with sync_file_range is not that it lacks a
> metadata flag like fsync vs fdatasync. It is that it does not even
> sync the metadata required to retrieve the data (which of course
> fdatasync must do, otherwise it would be useless).

Oh, I agree about that.

(Different meaning of metadata, btw.  That's the term used in O_SYNC
vs. O_DSYNC documentation for other unixes that I've read, that's why
I used it in that flag, for consistency with other unixes.)

> This is just another reason why I prefer to just try to evolve the
> traditional fsync interface slowly.

But sync_file_range() has a bug, which you've pointed out - the
missing _data-retrieval_ metadata isn't synced.  In other words, it's
completely useless.

If that bug isn't going to be fixed, delete sync_file_range()
altogether.  There's no point keeping it if it's broken.  And if it's
fixed, it'll do what your fsync_range() does, so why have both?

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-21  4:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-20 16:47 [rfc] fsync_range? Nick Piggin
2009-01-20 18:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-20 21:25   ` Bryan Henderson
2009-01-20 22:42     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21 19:43       ` Bryan Henderson
2009-01-21 21:08         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21 22:44           ` Bryan Henderson
2009-01-21 23:31             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21  1:36     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 19:58       ` Bryan Henderson
2009-01-21 20:53         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21 22:14           ` Bryan Henderson
2009-01-21 22:30             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-22  1:52               ` Bryan Henderson
2009-01-22  3:41                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21  1:29   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21  3:15     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21  3:48       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21  5:24         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21  6:16           ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 11:18             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21 11:41               ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 12:09                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21  4:16       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21  4:59         ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-01-21  6:23           ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 12:02             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21 12:13             ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-21 12:37               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21 14:12                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-21 14:35                   ` Chris Mason
2009-01-21 15:58                     ` Eric Sandeen
2009-01-21 20:41                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21 21:23                       ` jim owens
2009-01-21 21:59                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21 23:08                           ` btrfs O_DIRECT was " jim owens
2009-01-22  0:06                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-22 13:50                               ` jim owens
2009-01-22 21:18                   ` Florian Weimer
2009-01-22 21:23                     ` Florian Weimer
2009-01-21  3:25     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-21  3:52       ` Nick Piggin

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