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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Dietmar Maurer <dietmar-YTcQvvOqK21BDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers <containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: storage considerations
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:36:38 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090205153638.GD27410@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7B7881568CF40E4388B615CD06F87B98098A12-cHQ43lMKbBKenyD9vqZGNUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Dietmar Maurer (dietmar-YTcQvvOqK21BDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org):
> > >>> Dietmar Maurer wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi Daniel,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think we should have several options for the root storage:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1.) simply use the host filesystem (like Openvz)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 	- special quota support is needed (simfs?)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 	- quota support depends on ext3 fs, so this only works for
> > >>>> 	  local attached storage (does not work on NFS)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 	- LVM snapshots are slow, because the snapshot includes all
> > >>>> container
> > >>>> 	  on that filesystem.
> > >>>>
> > >> I'm looking forward to the btrfs, tux3, and nilfs snapshotting
> > >> capabilities.
> > >>
> > > Interesting, especially the nilfs.
> > > The COW file systems is missing in the linux kernel. Do you think
> the
> > > btrfs has a chance to go to mainline ?
> > 
> > We've been using NILFS (v1) for 2 years already with Zap, and it works
> > quite well. We had to make slight (trivial) changes to be able to
> > control it nicely for c/r purposes.
> 
> NILFS, BTRFS, ... maybe provide solution for snapshots, but quota
> support
> is still missing (we need quotas on subdirectories)?

Haven't thought it through 100%, but does it not suffice to be able
to specify quotas per user-namespace?  It won't help with NFS...

> And a FS independent solution would be great, so that it works on top of
> NFS too. 
> 
> So UnionFS looks good, but it does not provide real snapshots (using 
> base + incremental change looks clumsy for our purpose). I am also not
> sure
> if quota works on UnionFS?
> 
> - Dietmar

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-05 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <7B7881568CF40E4388B615CD06F87B980989E9@clara.maurer-it.com>
     [not found] ` <7B7881568CF40E4388B615CD06F87B980989E9-cHQ43lMKbBKenyD9vqZGNUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-03 16:38   ` storage considerations Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]     ` <49887307.1080105-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-03 17:14       ` Dietmar Maurer
2009-02-04 16:05       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20090204160518.GC2039-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-04 16:52           ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]             ` <4989C7C0.6060906-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-04 17:09               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-04 23:04               ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                 ` <498A1EE6.3000204-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05  7:01                   ` Dietmar Maurer
     [not found]                     ` <7B7881568CF40E4388B615CD06F87B98098A12-cHQ43lMKbBKenyD9vqZGNUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 10:56                       ` [Devel] " Dietmar Maurer
2009-02-05 15:36                       ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20090205153638.GD27410-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 15:45                           ` Dietmar Maurer
     [not found]                             ` <7B7881568CF40E4388B615CD06F87B98098A22-cHQ43lMKbBKenyD9vqZGNUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 16:04                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                 ` <20090205160402.GE27410-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 16:18                                   ` Dietmar Maurer
2009-02-05  7:08       ` Dietmar Maurer

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