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From: "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <keld@dkuug.dk>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] Assorted md patches headed for 2.6.30
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:53:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090212095305.GB11981@rap.rap.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12039e3b9172d1a1347b8396cab59f11.squirrel@neil.brown.name>

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 08:21:12PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Thu, February 12, 2009 7:11 pm, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 02:10:10PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> >> Comments and testing very welcome.
> >
> > I would rather have functionality to convert raid10 to raid5.
> > raid1 should be depreciated, as raid10,n2 for all purposes is the same
> > but better implementation and performance, and raid10,f2 and raid10,o2
> > are even better.  Nobody should use raid1 anymore.
> 
> That is a fairly simplistic view.

It was also formulated to provoke some thoughts.

> raid1 supports --write-mostly and --write-behind which raid10 is unlikely
> ever to support.

why?

Anyway would it not be possible that this functionality be implemented
for raid10,n2?

> Certainly in many cases raid10 is just as good or better than raid1
> though.
> 
> Certainly a raid10->raid5 conversion for a 2-drive n2 configuration
> is trivial to arrange.  Other conversions are less likely to be supported
> as they require significant non-trivial rearrangement of data.

Yes, possibly.


Some code to grow raid10 would also be desirable. Maybe it is some of
the same operations that need to be applied: getting the old data in,
have it restructured for the new format, in a safe way, and possibly
with the help of an extra disk, or possibly not. It sounds non-trivial
to me too.

Best regards
keld
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-12  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-12  3:10 [PATCH 00/18] Assorted md patches headed for 2.6.30 NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 03/18] md: occasionally checkpoint drive recovery to reduce duplicate effort after a crash NeilBrown
2009-02-12 17:26   ` John Stoffel
2009-02-13 16:20   ` Bill Davidsen
2009-02-13 16:34     ` Jon Nelson
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 06/18] md: Represent raid device size in sectors NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 02/18] md: write bitmap information to devices that are undergoing recovery NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 01/18] md: never clear bit from the write-intent bitmap when the array is degraded NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 08/18] md/raid5: change raid5_compute_sector and stripe_to_pdidx to take a 'previous' argument NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 05/18] md: Make mddev->size sector-based NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 07/18] md/raid5: simplify interface for init_stripe and get_active_stripe NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 04/18] md: be more consistent about setting WriteMostly flag when adding a drive to an array NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 12/18] md/raid5: finish support for DDF/raid6 NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 15/18] md: hopefully enable suspend/resume of md devices NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 13/18] md/raid5: refactor raid5 "run" NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 18/18] md/raid5: allow layout/chunksize to be changed on an active2-drive raid5 NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 16/18] md: add ->takeover method to support changing the personality managing an array NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 17/18] md: add ->takeover method for raid5 to be able to take over raid1 NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 11/18] md/raid5: Add support for new layouts for raid5 and raid6 NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 14/18] md: md_unregister_thread should cope with being passed NULL NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 09/18] md/raid6: remove expectation that Q device is immediately after P device NeilBrown
2009-02-12 16:56   ` Andre Noll
2009-02-13 22:19     ` Dan Williams
2009-02-16  0:08     ` Neil Brown
2009-02-13 16:37   ` Bill Davidsen
2009-02-16  5:15     ` Neil Brown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 10/18] md/raid5: simplify raid5_compute_sector interface NeilBrown
2009-02-12  8:11 ` [PATCH 00/18] Assorted md patches headed for 2.6.30 Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-02-12  9:13   ` Steve Fairbairn
2009-02-12  9:46     ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-02-12 10:52       ` NeilBrown
2009-02-12 11:16         ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-02-12 10:53       ` Julian Cowley
2009-02-13 16:54         ` Bill Davidsen
2009-02-16  5:35           ` Neil Brown
2009-02-16 17:31             ` Nagilum
2009-02-12 22:57     ` Dan Williams
2009-02-13 16:56     ` Bill Davidsen
2009-02-12  9:21   ` NeilBrown
2009-02-12  9:53     ` Keld Jørn Simonsen [this message]
2009-02-12 10:45       ` NeilBrown
2009-02-12 11:11         ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-02-12 15:28         ` Wil Reichert
2009-02-12 17:44           ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-02-12  9:42 ` Farkas Levente
2009-02-12 10:40   ` NeilBrown
2009-02-12 11:17     ` Farkas Levente
2009-02-13 17:02       ` Bill Davidsen
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2009-03-10  8:24 jzc-sina
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2009-03-13  1:00 ` Neil Brown

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