From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755440AbZBRRxS (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:53:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753065AbZBRRxH (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:53:07 -0500 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:40680 "EHLO vavatch.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751938AbZBRRxG (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:53:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:52:44 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: Jesse Barnes Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Brian Swetland , Arjan van de Ven , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , "Woodruff, Richard" , Alan Stern , Kyle Moffett , Oliver Neukum , pm list , LKML , Arve =?iso-8859-1?B?SGr4bm5lduVn?= , Pavel Machek , Nigel Cunningham , mark gross , Uli Luckas , Igor Stoppa , Len Brown Subject: Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend Message-ID: <20090218175244.GA19235@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20090217152811.GA12686@bulgaria.corp.google.com> <1234924840.14060.342.camel@pasglop> <200902180948.06039.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200902180948.06039.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on vavatch.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:48:04AM -0800, Jesse Barnes wrote: > I think "powernag" would be a better name, and it would probably work pretty > well. Users would be notified that certain apps should probably be shut down > while they're on battery, and nag the authors to fix it. How do you usefully tell the difference between an application that's waking up a lot because it's dumb and an application that's waking up a lot because it's doing something useful? One downside of powertop is that it's resulted in a lot of "How do I reduce the number of wakeups caused by i8042 whenever I use the mouse"-type questions. We don't want innocent app writers to be hit by this kind of thing. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org