From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Laroj-00032A-6y for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:22:53 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Larog-00031k-3d for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:22:50 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Larod-00031Y-JK for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:22:48 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43439 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Larod-00031V-CQ for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:22:47 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:55858) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Larod-0000yc-1V for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:22:47 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lari6-0006xV-Qc for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:16:03 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Laroa-0004F0-3t for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:22:44 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:22:44 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090221132244.GG16068@thorin> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: A _good_ and valid use for TPM X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:22:50 -0000 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:10:22AM +0200, Alex Besogonov wrote: > I know that TPM has been mentioned several times on this list. With > absolutely inadequate knee-jerk reactions from GRUB developers :( As far as I can recall, I think all my replies explaining why TPMs are a serious threat to our freedom were polite and respectful. Please think twice before labeling a reply you disagree with as "inadequate knee-jerk reaction", or it will be impossible to have a reasonable discussion over this issue. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."