From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1LasO3-0000uJ-Rk for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:59:24 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LasNz-0000tW-KG for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:59:19 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LasNw-0000sj-Mz for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:59:18 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33630 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LasNu-0000sP-I4 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:59:14 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:60357) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LasNu-0001AW-2c for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:59:14 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LasHO-00075q-5J for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:52:30 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LasNr-0004I3-D3 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:59:11 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:59:11 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090221135911.GM16068@thorin> References: <200902200945.51426.michael@gorven.za.net> <499E93A0.2090108@gmail.com> <200902201412.15026.michael@gorven.za.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200902201412.15026.michael@gorven.za.net> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: A _good_ and valid use for TPM X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:59:21 -0000 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 02:12:01PM +0200, Michael Gorven wrote: > > Yes, I agree that there should be multiple methods, but I don't see why the > TPM module shouldn't be in the main trunk. It wouldn't be forced on GRUB > users in any way -- we would just be giving them the option to use it. GRUB is free software. You can do anything you want with it. We can't really force our users to either use TPMs or not to use them. However, we can choose not to endorse a feature if we think it's ill-intended. We can also try to raise awareness of the problem, which is what I'm doing right now. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."