From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1LayNc-00030O-4n for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:23:20 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LayNZ-0002yy-Vh for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:23:18 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LayNY-0002xM-O9 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:23:16 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37666 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LayNY-0002x9-Id for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:23:16 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:39017) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LayNY-0007Eg-9d for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:23:16 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LayH0-00006w-NY for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:16:31 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LayNV-0004tJ-KA for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:23:13 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:23:13 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090221202313.GE18492@thorin> References: <499DB343.9020301@gmail.com> <499DF97E.1080800@student.ethz.ch> <20090221134607.GJ16068@thorin> <49A033E2.6060904@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49A033E2.6060904@gmail.com> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: A _good_ and valid use for TPM X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:23:18 -0000 On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 06:03:30PM +0100, phcoder wrote: > > The only thing that tpm offers over other possibilities is a claim to > achieve something that is theoretically impossible. Such claims are > often the case in computer industry. I call it "marketing security". And I have to admit, they got really good at it. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."