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From: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: kilgota@banach.math.auburn.edu
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	urishk@yahoo.com, linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:04:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090221210428.15d96814@hyperion.delvare> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0902211008360.9653@banach.math.auburn.edu>

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:42:17 -0600 (CST), kilgota@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
> This is not exactly what I was trying to say. I'll try again.
> 
> 1. Anyone who would call himself a developer will run quite recent kernels 
> without being forced to do so, voluntarily and with pleasure.
> 
> 2. Sometimes the kernel which just came out has a bug. The bug can 
> interfere with current work even though it is from another kernel 
> subsystem. I mentioned a recent example. The problem was in the basic USB 
> area. It specifically related to devices running on alt0 and using a bulk 
> endpoint. I was trying to support a camera that streams on alt0 over the 
> bulk endpoint. Said bug seriously interfered with progress. Who would say 
> that everyone should simultaneously use the same tree, suggests that 
> everyone should simultaneously experience the same set of bugs.
> 
> 3. Because of (2) and for other obvious reasons, the ability to develop 
> a kernel subsystem semi-independently of the latest git tree is a clever 
> and good thing. Why give it up and tie oneself to just one git tree?
> 
> 4. If it were my decision, I probably would not tie myself in knots if 
> something new would "break" a kernel which is more than a couple of 
> versions behind. Right now, this would probably mean I would not care at 
> all what happened to people running 2.6.24.x or older. Furthermore, if 
> what was "broken" was due to a bug in the old kernel, too bad.
> 
> 5. So I would continue to allow flexibility but I would not become 
> extremely concerned if a kernel more than a couple of versions behind 
> would start to have problems. I would try to be nice and let people know, 
> unless they started to shout at me, at which point I  would start to 
> ignore them.
> 
> Probably all of the above would please nobody, and it is a good that I am 
> not in charge of anything.

Actually, it would totally please me :)

-- 
Jean Delvare

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-21 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-18  8:55 Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb Hans Verkuil
2009-02-18 10:10 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-18 13:01   ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-20  3:57     ` hermann pitton
2009-02-20  6:53       ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-20  9:49         ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-20 10:39           ` hermann pitton
2009-02-21  0:23     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21  1:12       ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-21  2:13         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21  2:40           ` hermann pitton
2009-02-21  7:28           ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-21 11:58             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 12:45               ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-21 12:56                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 16:20                   ` hermann pitton
2009-02-21 14:26                 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-21 12:06           ` Trent Piepho
2009-02-21 13:01             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 13:11             ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-21 13:28               ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-21 13:56                 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-21 13:58               ` Trent Piepho
2009-02-22 10:09                 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-21  1:30       ` kilgota
2009-02-21  2:18         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 16:42           ` kilgota
2009-02-21 20:04             ` Jean Delvare [this message]
2009-02-21  9:32       ` Jean Delvare
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-18 10:54 Hans Verkuil
2009-02-18 11:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-17 13:23 Jean Delvare
2009-02-17 22:24 ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-02-17 23:06   ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-21 11:50     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-21 12:01       ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-18  0:08 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-18  0:18   ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-18  2:08     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-18  7:36       ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-18  8:30         ` Uri Shkolnik

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