From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761439AbZBYJTT (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:19:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756590AbZBYJS6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:18:58 -0500 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:53052 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755472AbZBYJS4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:18:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:15:07 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Ingo Molnar Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , Steven Rostedt , LKML , Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra , Frederic Weisbecker , Theodore Tso , Arjan van de Ven , Pekka Paalanen , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Jason Baron , Martin Bligh , Mathieu Desnoyers , "Frank Ch. Eigler" , KOSAKI Motohiro , Jens Axboe , Masami Hiramatsu , Steven Rostedt Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] tracing: add event trace infrastructure Message-Id: <20090225011507.9135b143.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20090225084000.GB9322@elte.hu> References: <20090225025608.956691460@goodmis.org> <20090225025753.798204550@goodmis.org> <20090224194548.3effb746.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090224203308.8d623e0b.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090225081118.GC15303@elte.hu> <20090225002852.5ef5b869.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090225084000.GB9322@elte.hu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.5; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:40:00 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: > _Maybe_ some of it (but certainly not all) could be done via > klibc - but that got nacked. If you can convince Linus to take > klibc and to allow a userspace 'halo' of utilities that are > intimate with kernel details into the kernel proper then maybe > we could start providing such tools in the kernel proper. see, there you go! No, we don't need to merge klibc to be able to develop and deliver simple, kernel-developer-only userspace tools within the kernel tree. For heaven's sake. Sam had a patchset which scoops up all the compileable .c files in Documentation/ and actually puts them into a separate directory along with a makefile. It worked! It didn't quite get merged though.