From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vegard.nossum@gmail.com,
stable@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, npiggin@suse.de,
penberg@cs.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: [PATCH] v4 Teach RCU that idle task is not quiscent state at boot
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:09:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090226030933.GD7526@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090225170825.GC6797@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
* Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> OK, alternatives...
>
> o Reverse the roles of the idle and init threads during startup,
> so that there is initially no idle thread.
>
> However, there appears to be a fair amount of code that assumes
> that there is always an idle thread.
>
> o As above, but create both the init and idle threads early so
> that there always is an idle thread that happens not to be
> running during boot.
>
> This would work, but seems to me to be uglier than the flag.
>
> o Stop using idle_cpu() in rcu_check_callbacks(), instead keeping
> a per-CPU "cpu_is_idle" variable that is set upon entry to the
> various idle() loops and cleared upon exit. It would be OK to
> take interrupts while "cpu_is_idle" is set.
>
> The disadvantage here is that there are quite a few idle loops,
> and it would be necessary to change them all. Missing one or
> two could result in indefinite grace periods on the affected
> systems.
>
> o Drop idle as a quiescent state, as is already the case for
> rcupreempt.
>
> This would result in indefinite grace-period delays for
> rcuclassic, but would actually work for rcutree. Except that
> it would cause rcutree to IPI each and every idle CPU for
> every grace period if !CONFIG_NO_HZ. I expect that this
> overhead would far exceed that of the extra flag check in
> rcu_check_callbacks().
>
> So I still like the flag check. Any alternatives that I am missing?
Indeed none of the alternatives looks particularly appealing, so
i concur. Thanks Paul for analyzing it so thoroughly!
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-26 3:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-23 16:16 [PATCH] Teach RCU that idle task is not quiscent state at boot Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-23 17:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 20:43 ` [PATCH] v2 " Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-24 4:02 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 5:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-24 14:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-25 0:29 ` [PATCH] v3 " Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-25 4:12 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 4:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-25 14:19 ` [PATCH] v4 " Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-25 16:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25 16:26 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 17:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-25 17:18 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 17:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-25 17:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-26 3:09 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-25 18:38 ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-25 19:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-26 2:03 ` [PATCH] v5 " Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-26 3:08 ` Ingo Molnar
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