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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
	ego@in.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, andi@firstfloor.org,
	venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com, vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	arun@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] timers: framework for migration between CPU
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:45:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090226154526.GD352@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090226085831.GA28397@in.ibm.com>


* Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:07:25PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > * Identify set of idle CPUs (CPU package) from which timers 
> > >   can be removed
> > > * Identify a semi-idle or idle CPU package to which the timers
> > >   can be moved
> > > * Decide when to start moving timers as the system has large
> > >   number of idle CPUs
> > > * Decide when to stop migrating as system becomes less idle
> > >   and utilisation increases
> > > 
> > > Guiding all of the above decisions from user space may not be 
> > > fast enough.
> > 
> > Exactly.
> 
> That is true for power management. However there are other 
> situations where we may need targeted avoidance of timers. 
> Certain type of applications - HPC for example - prefer 
> avoidance of jitters due to periodic timers. It would be good 
> to be able to say "avoid these CPUs for timers" while they are 
> being used for HPC tasks.

Yes - but that kind of policy should be coupled and expressed 
via cpusets. /proc based irq_affinity is just a limited, 
inflexible hack. All things IRQ partitioning should be handled 
via cpusets - perhaps via the 'system sets' idea from Peter?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-26 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-20 12:55 [RFC PATCH 0/4] timers: framework for migration between CPU Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 12:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] timers: framework to identify pinned timers Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 12:57 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 12:58 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] timers: sysfs hook to enable timer migration Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 12:58 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 13:00 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] timers: identifying the existing pinned hrtimers Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 13:00 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] timers: logic to enable timer migration Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 13:01 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] timers: framework for migration between CPU Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 14:14   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-02-20 16:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 16:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 19:57       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-20 19:57       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-20 21:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 21:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  7:55           ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-23  9:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  9:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  9:48               ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-23 10:22                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 10:22                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 11:24                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-23 11:24                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-23 10:38                 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-02-23 10:38                 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-02-23 11:07                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 11:07                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 11:25                     ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-23 11:25                     ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-26  8:58                     ` Dipankar Sarma
2009-02-26 15:45                       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-26 16:02                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-26 16:02                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-26 16:12                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 16:12                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 15:45                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26  8:58                     ` Dipankar Sarma
2009-02-23  9:48               ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-23  7:55           ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-20 14:14   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-02-23  7:59   ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-23  7:59   ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 13:21 ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-20 12:55 Arun R Bharadwaj

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