From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Ld95m-000481-43 for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:13:54 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ld95i-000437-GQ for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:13:50 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ld95e-0003z8-Jl for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:13:47 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53926 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ld95e-0003yt-Az for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:13:46 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:35043) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ld95d-0001D3-Vd for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:13:46 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ld8yW-0006Wu-C9 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:06:25 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ld8zL-0008GR-Hl for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:07:15 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:07:15 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090227200715.GE31629@thorin> References: <20090221134607.GJ16068@thorin> <49A00DB7.2080003@student.ethz.ch> <20090221143440.GA16682@thorin> <49A0170E.9040908@student.ethz.ch> <20090221200844.GC18492@thorin> <49A11E82.2040909@gmail.com> <49A1705B.7030702@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: A _good_ and valid use for TPM X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:13:51 -0000 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:34:56AM +0100, step21 wrote: > if there is one company that I think would try to lock their hardware > down as much as possible using something like a tpm, it's apple, but > they don't. You're looking at the wrong place. Check the iphone. Anyway, it's nice to hear TPMs are disappearing from desktops. I hope it's true. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."