From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1LlP4q-0005Ji-43 for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:55:04 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LlP4o-0005JP-5S for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:55:02 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LlP4j-0005IV-Kx for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:55:01 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38596 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LlP4j-0005IS-HY for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:54:57 -0400 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:56035) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LlP4j-00035l-6Y for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:54:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LlOvN-0004cu-6U for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:45:17 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LlP4d-0001zL-S1 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:54:51 +0100 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:54:51 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090322145451.GA7604@thorin> References: <49C63395.9090304@gmail.com> <200903222212.34194.okuji@enbug.org> <49C63D70.5020908@gmail.com> <200903222301.41688.okuji@enbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200903222301.41688.okuji@enbug.org> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Move loader.c out of the kernel X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:55:02 -0000 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:01:41PM +0900, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: > > > > If it's unable to read FS then it can't boot much anyway. If it's it can > > load modules from its own partition. The only use I see is when grub > > partition is corrupted but OS one is intact and you already have FS > > driver for root in grub2. > > Alternatively commands/boot.c can be a part of minicmd > > "cannot load any more module" != "cannot read the filesystem" > > The most typical case is where the user has failed in installing GRUB > correctly; In my experience dealing with grub2 bug reports in debian, the most common case where user entered rescue mode is some bug in grub. As grub becomes more mature, this may become less of an issue, but then again an automated install process is provided by the distribution. If users want to tinker and install things by hand, and they make mistakes, I think they should learn to either do things right or let the distribution scripts do it for them. Or to put it another way, "nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool" :-) -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."