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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	David Rees <drees76@gmail.com>, Jesper Krogh <jesper@krogh.cc>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: ext3 IO latency measurements (was: Linux 2.6.29)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:06:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090326090630.GA9369@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090325235041.GA11024@duck.suse.cz>


* Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:

> > So tell me again how the VM can rely on the filesystem not 
> > blocking at random points.
>
>   I can write a patch to make writepage() in the non-"mmapped 
> creation" case non-blocking on journal. But I'll also have to find 
> out whether it really helps something. But it's probably worth 
> trying...

_all_ the problems i ever had with ext3 were 'collateral damage' 
type of things: simple writes (sometimes even reads) getting 
serialized on some large [but reasonable] dirtying activity 
elsewhere - even if the system was still well within its 
hard-dirty-limit threshold.

So it sure sounds like an area worth improving, and it's not that 
hard to reproduce either. Take a system with enough RAM but only a 
single disk, and do this in a kernel tree:

  sync
  echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches

  while :; do
    date
    make mrproper      2>/dev/null >/dev/null
    make defconfig     2>/dev/null >/dev/null
    make -j32 bzImage  2>/dev/null >/dev/null
  done &

Plain old kernel build, no distcc and no icecream. Wait a few 
minutes for the system to reach equilibrium. There's no tweaking 
anywhere, kernel, distro and filesystem defaults used everywhere:

 aldebaran:/home/mingo/linux/linux> ./compile-test 
 Thu Mar 26 10:33:03 CET 2009
 Thu Mar 26 10:35:24 CET 2009
 Thu Mar 26 10:36:48 CET 2009
 Thu Mar 26 10:38:54 CET 2009
 Thu Mar 26 10:41:22 CET 2009
 Thu Mar 26 10:43:41 CET 2009
 Thu Mar 26 10:46:02 CET 2009
 Thu Mar 26 10:48:28 CET 2009

And try to use the system while this workload is going on. Use Vim 
to edit files in this kernel tree. Use plain _cat_ - and i hit 
delays all the time - and it's not the CPU scheduler but all IO 
related.

I have such an ext3 based system where i can do such tests and where 
i dont mind crashes and data corruption either, so if you send me 
experimental patches against latet -git i can try them immediately. 
The system has 16 CPUs, 12GB of RAM and a single disk.

Btw., i had this test going on that box while i wrote some simple 
scripts in Vim - and it was a horrible experience. The worst wait 
was well above one minute - Vim just hung there indefinitely. Not 
even Ctrl-Z was possible. I captured one such wait, it was hanging 
right here:

 aldebaran:~/linux/linux> cat /proc/3742/stack
 [<ffffffff8034790a>] log_wait_commit+0xbd/0x110
 [<ffffffff803430b2>] journal_stop+0x1df/0x20d
 [<ffffffff8034421f>] journal_force_commit+0x28/0x2d
 [<ffffffff80331c69>] ext3_force_commit+0x2b/0x2d
 [<ffffffff80328b56>] ext3_write_inode+0x3e/0x44
 [<ffffffff802ebb9d>] __sync_single_inode+0xc1/0x2ad
 [<ffffffff802ebed6>] __writeback_single_inode+0x14d/0x15a
 [<ffffffff802ebf0c>] sync_inode+0x29/0x34
 [<ffffffff80327453>] ext3_sync_file+0xa7/0xb4
 [<ffffffff802ef17d>] vfs_fsync+0x78/0xaf
 [<ffffffff802ef1eb>] do_fsync+0x37/0x4d
 [<ffffffff802ef228>] sys_fsync+0x10/0x14
 [<ffffffff8020bd1b>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
 [<ffffffffffffffff>] 0xffffffffffffffff

It took about 120 seconds for it to recover.

And it's not just sys_fsync(). The script i wrote tests file read 
latencies. I have created 1000 files with the same size (all copies 
of kernel/sched.c ;-), and tested their cache-cold plain-cat 
performance via:

  for ((i=0;i<1000;i++)); do
    printf "file #%4d, plain reading it took: " $i
    /usr/bin/time -f "%e seconds."  cat $i >/dev/null
  done

I.e. plain, supposedly high-prio reads. The result is very common 
hickups in read latencies:

file # 579 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 0.08 seconds.
file # 580 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 0.05 seconds.
file # 581 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 0.01 seconds.
file # 582 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 0.01 seconds.
file # 583 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 4.61 seconds.
file # 584 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 1.29 seconds.
file # 585 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 3.01 seconds.
file # 586 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 7.74 seconds.
file # 587 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 3.22 seconds.
file # 588 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 0.05 seconds.
file # 589 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 0.36 seconds.
file # 590 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 7.39 seconds.
file # 591 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 7.58 seconds.
file # 592 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 7.90 seconds.
file # 593 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 8.78 seconds.
file # 594 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 8.01 seconds.
file # 595 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 7.47 seconds.
file # 596 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 11.52 seconds.
file # 597 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 10.33 seconds.
file # 598 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 8.56 seconds.
file # 599 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 7.58 seconds.

The system's RAM is ridiculously under-utilized, 96.1% is free, only 
3.9% is utilized:

              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
 Mem:      12318192     476732   11841460          0      48324     142936
 -/+ buffers/cache:     285472   12032720
 Swap:      4096564          0    4096564

Dirty data in /proc/meminfo fluctuates between 0.4% and 1.6% of 
total RAM. (the script removes the freshly build kernel object 
files, so the workload is pretty steady.)

The peak of 1.6% looks like this:

Dirty:            118376 kB
Dirty:            143784 kB
Dirty:            161756 kB
Dirty:            185084 kB
Dirty:            210524 kB
Dirty:            213348 kB
Dirty:            200124 kB
Dirty:            122152 kB
Dirty:            121508 kB
Dirty:            121512 kB

(1 second snapshots)

So the problems are all around the place and they are absolutely, 
trivially reproducible. And this is how a default ext3 based distro 
and the default upstream kernel will present itself to new Linux 
users and developers. It's not a pretty experience.

Oh, and while at it - also a job control complaint. I tried to 
Ctrl-C the above script:

file # 858 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 0.06 seconds.
file # 859 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 0.02 seconds.
file # 860 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 5.53 seconds.
file # 861 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 3.70 seconds.
file # 862 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 0.88 seconds.
file # 863 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 0.04 seconds.
file # 864 (253560 bytes), reading it took: ^C0.69 seconds.
file # 865 (253560 bytes), reading it took: ^C0.49 seconds.
file # 866 (253560 bytes), reading it took: ^C0.01 seconds.
file # 867 (253560 bytes), reading it took: ^C0.02 seconds.
file # 868 (253560 bytes), reading it took: ^C^C0.01 seconds.
file # 869 (253560 bytes), reading it took: ^C^C0.04 seconds.
file # 870 (253560 bytes), reading it took: ^C^C^C0.03 seconds.
file # 871 (253560 bytes), reading it took: ^C0.02 seconds.
file # 872 (253560 bytes), reading it took: ^C^C0.02 seconds.
file # 873 (253560 bytes), reading it took: 
^C^C^C^Caldebaran:~/linux/linux/test-files/src> 

I had to hit Ctrl-C numerous times before Bash would honor it. This 
to is a very common thing on large SMP systems. I'm willing to test 
patches until all these problems are fixed. Any takers?

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-26  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 654+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-23 23:29 Linux 2.6.29 Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24  6:19 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-24  6:46   ` David Rees
2009-03-24  7:32     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-24  8:16       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 11:10         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-24 19:00       ` David Rees
2009-03-25 17:42         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-25 18:16           ` David Rees
2009-03-25 18:46             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-25 18:30         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 18:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 22:05             ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 23:23               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 23:46                 ` Bron Gondwana
2009-03-26  0:32                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-27  0:11                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27  0:27                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27  0:47                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27  1:03                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27  1:25                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27  2:21                           ` David Rees
2009-03-27  3:03                             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27  3:36                             ` Dave Jones
2009-03-27  3:01                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27  3:38                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27  3:59                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28 23:52                               ` david
2009-03-28  5:06                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 21:03                           ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-01 21:36                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-01 22:57                               ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 14:46                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-04-03 15:16                                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 15:42                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-04-03 18:59                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-04  8:18                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-04 12:40                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-04-05  1:57                                         ` David Newall
2009-04-05  3:46                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-04-02  1:00                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03  4:06                                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03  4:13                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03  7:25                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-03  8:15                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-06 21:46                                         ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-03 14:21                                       ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 15:05                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-04-03 15:14                                           ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 19:57                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 21:28                                             ` Janne Grunau
2009-04-03 21:57                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 22:32                                                 ` Janne Grunau
2009-04-03 22:57                                                   ` David Rees
2009-04-03 23:29                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 23:52                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03 22:53                                                 ` David Rees
2009-04-03 23:30                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-04 16:29                                                     ` Janne Grunau
2009-04-04 23:02                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-05 14:20                                                         ` Janne Grunau
2009-04-06 14:06                                                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 22:28                                   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-04-06 14:15                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-06 21:27                                       ` Mark Lord
2009-04-06 21:56                                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-02 11:05                             ` Janne Grunau
2009-04-02 16:09                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-02 16:33                                 ` David Rees
2009-04-02 16:46                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-02 16:51                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-02 22:13                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-02 21:56                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-02 16:29                               ` David Rees
2009-04-02 16:42                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-02 16:57                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-02 17:04                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-02 22:09                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-02 22:42                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-02 22:51                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-02 23:00                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03  2:01                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03  2:16                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03  3:05                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03  3:34                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03 11:32                                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-04-03 15:07                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03 15:40                                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-04-03 20:05                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 20:14                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03 21:48                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 22:06                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03 23:48                                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-04 12:46                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-04-04 12:52                                                                   ` Huang Yuntao
2009-04-03 23:35                                                           ` Dave Jones
2009-04-04 12:44                                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-04-04 21:10                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03  5:05                                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-03  8:31                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03  8:35                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03  2:38                                             ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  2:54                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 15:14                                       ` Mark Lord
2009-04-03 15:18                                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 15:46                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-04-03 15:28                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-02 18:52                                   ` David Rees
2009-04-02 21:42                                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-02 21:50                               ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 15:07                               ` Mark Lord
2009-04-02 12:17                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-02 21:54                               ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-02 23:27                                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03  0:32                                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-03-27  3:23                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27  3:47                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27  5:13                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27  5:57                               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27  6:21                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 11:24                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 12:17                                     ` Linux 2.6.29 - delayed metadata for delayed allocation? Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-27 14:51                                     ` Linux 2.6.29 Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 15:08                                       ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 15:22                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 16:15                                           ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 16:28                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 16:51                                               ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 17:02                                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 17:19                                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 18:05                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 18:35                                                       ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 19:03                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 19:14                                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 19:32                                                           ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 20:11                                                             ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-27 22:01                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31  9:58                                                             ` Neil Brown
2009-03-27 19:19                                                         ` Gene Heskett
2009-03-27 19:48                                                           ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 20:02                                                             ` Aaron Cohen
     [not found]                                                             ` <727e50150903271301l36cff340l33e813bf6f77b4b@mail.gmail.com>
2009-03-27 20:04                                                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 22:37                                                             ` Gene Heskett
2009-03-27 22:55                                                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-28  0:42                                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2009-03-27 18:36                                                     ` Hua Zhong
2009-03-27 17:57                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 18:22                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 18:32                                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 18:40                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 19:00                                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-29  9:15                                                           ` Xavier Bestel
2009-03-29 20:16                                                             ` Alan Cox
2009-03-29 21:07                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 19:37                                                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-27 20:27                                                         ` Felipe Contreras
2009-03-27 19:43                                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27 20:01                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 22:20                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27 21:46                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 22:06                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27 22:19                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 22:25                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28  1:19                                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28  1:30                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-03-28  2:19                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-03-28  2:49                                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28 13:29                                                                     ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-28 14:17                                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28 14:35                                                                         ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-28 15:17                                                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-03-28 16:08                                                                             ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-28 16:32                                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28 17:22                                                                                 ` David Hagood
2009-03-29  1:18                                                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-31 18:45                                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2009-03-29 23:14                                                                             ` Dave Chinner
2009-03-30  0:39                                                                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-30  1:29                                                                                 ` Trenton Adams
2009-03-30  3:28                                                                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-30  3:55                                                                                     ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-03-30 13:45                                                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-30  6:31                                                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2009-03-30 13:55                                                                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-30  7:13                                                                                 ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-30  9:05                                                                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-30 10:49                                                                                     ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-30 11:12                                                                                       ` Alan Cox
2009-03-30 11:17                                                                                       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 13:48                                                                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 14:00                                                                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 14:44                                                                                             ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 14:58                                                                                               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 15:21                                                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 15:27                                                                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 16:13                                                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 16:30                                                                                                       ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 16:58                                                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 17:29                                                                                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 17:57                                                                                                           ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 18:39                                                                                                             ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 18:52                                                                                                               ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 20:19                                                                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 18:54                                                                                                             ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2009-03-30 15:00                                                                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 15:34                                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 16:11                                                                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 16:34                                                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 17:11                                                                                               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 17:39                                                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 17:51                                                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 18:15                                                                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 19:08                                                                                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-30 19:22                                                                                                   ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-30 19:41                                                                                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 20:21                                                                                                       ` Michael Tokarev
2009-03-30 20:26                                                                                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 20:29                                                                                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 20:35                                                                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 20:40                                                                                                             ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 20:34                                                                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 20:05                                                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31  9:27                                                                                                     ` Neil Brown
2009-03-31 21:13                                                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-31 21:10                                                                                               ` Alan Cox
2009-03-31 21:55                                                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 19:02                                                                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-01  1:19                                                                                     ` david
2009-04-01 16:24                                                                                       ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-01 20:15                                                                                         ` david
2009-04-01 21:33                                                                                           ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-04-01 22:29                                                                                             ` david
2009-04-02  2:30                                                                                               ` Bron Gondwana
2009-04-02  4:55                                                                                                 ` david
2009-04-02  5:29                                                                                                   ` Bron Gondwana
2009-04-02  9:58                                                                                                   ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-04-02 12:30                                                                                               ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-01 22:00                                                                                           ` Harald Arnesen
2009-04-01 22:09                                                                                             ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2009-04-01 22:28                                                                                             ` david
2009-03-30  3:01                                                                               ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30  6:41                                                                                 ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-30 12:55                                                                               ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 17:42                                                                                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-31 23:55                                                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2009-04-01 12:53                                                                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-04-01 15:41                                                                                     ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-04-01 16:02                                                                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-04-01 18:37                                                                                         ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-04-01 21:50                                                                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-01 23:44                                                                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-28 16:25                                                                           ` Alex Goebel
2009-03-28 21:12                                                                             ` Hua Zhong
2009-03-29  8:22                                                                               ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-29  0:33                                                                 ` david
2009-03-29  1:24                                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-29  3:43                                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-29  4:53                                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-31 15:01                                                                 ` Thierry Vignaud
2009-03-28  0:18                                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28  1:45                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28  2:53                                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28  2:56                                                                   ` Zid Null
2009-03-28  3:55                                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2009-03-28 11:29                                                                     ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2009-03-28  2:16                                                             ` Mark Lord
2009-03-28  2:38                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28 11:57                                                                 ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-27 15:20                                       ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2009-03-27 21:11                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-28  7:45                                       ` Bojan Smojver
2009-03-28  8:43                                         ` Bojan Smojver
2009-03-28 21:55                                           ` Bojan Smojver
2009-03-31 21:51                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-31 22:30                                               ` Bojan Smojver
2009-04-01  5:26                                                 ` Bojan Smojver
2009-04-01  6:35                                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-03 12:39                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-27  0:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27  1:03                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27  9:58                   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26  2:50               ` Neil Brown
2009-03-26  3:13                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-24  9:15     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-24  9:32       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 10:10         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-24 10:31           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 11:12             ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-24 12:23               ` Alan Cox
2009-03-24 13:37               ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 12:37               ` Jan Kara
2009-03-25 15:00                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 17:29                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 17:57                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-25 18:09                     ` David Rees
2009-03-25 18:21                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 18:26                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 18:48                           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-25 18:49                           ` Alan Cox
2009-03-25 18:55                             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-25 18:58                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 19:48                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-25 21:50                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26  2:10                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26  2:36                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  2:42                               ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                             ` <f73f7ab80903251944s581166bbk31c26db50750814a@mail.gmail.com>
2009-03-26  2:46                               ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-26  2:51                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  3:03                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-26  3:40                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26  3:57                                       ` David Miller
2009-03-26  4:58                                       ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-26  6:24                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26 12:49                                           ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-26  2:47                               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26  2:54                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-25 20:45                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 21:51                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 23:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 23:50                             ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26  0:04                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26  9:06                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-03-26  9:09                                 ` ext3 IO latency measurements (was: Linux 2.6.29) Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 11:08                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26 14:27                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-26 14:36                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26 14:49                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-26 11:37                                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 12:44                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 12:46                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 14:03                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 14:13                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 14:30                                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 15:32                                       ` relatime: update once per day patches (was: ext3 IO latency measurements) Frans Pop
2009-03-26 15:47                                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 16:14                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 16:24                                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 17:12                                               ` Frans Pop
2009-03-26 17:48                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 18:49                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 19:20                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 19:43                                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 11:25                                                       ` David Hagood
2009-03-26 16:30                                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 16:40                                               ` Jose Celestino
2009-03-26 17:14                                                 ` Frans Pop
2009-03-26 16:53                                               ` Frans Pop
2009-03-26 16:53                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 17:32                                             ` [PATCH] Allow relatime to update atime once a day Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 17:56                                               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-26 18:55                                               ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26 14:47                                     ` ext3 IO latency measurements (was: Linux 2.6.29) Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 16:20                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 17:06                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2009-03-26 17:07                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 17:16                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 17:49                                             ` [PATCH 1/2] Add a strictatime mount option Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 17:53                                               ` [PATCH 2/2] Make relatime default Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 18:48                                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26 22:27                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27  0:15                                                     ` Frans Pop
2009-03-27  0:30                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 14:06                                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27  2:05                                                     ` Frans Pop
2009-04-09 20:13                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-09 20:47                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-09 21:15                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-09 21:20                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-09 22:00                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-30 14:42                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-30 14:52                                                     ` Xavier Bestel
2009-03-30 19:26                                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2009-03-26 18:52                                               ` [PATCH 1/2] Add a strictatime mount option Alan Cox
2009-03-26 18:59                                             ` ext3 IO latency measurements (was: Linux 2.6.29) Alan Cox
2009-03-26 20:02                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 20:42                                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26 20:55                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 20:58                                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26 23:04                                                   ` Bron Gondwana
2009-03-27 11:22                                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 12:19                                                       ` Bron Gondwana
2009-03-27 13:56                                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 12:00                                               ` ext3 IO latency measurements Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2009-03-26 17:29                                         ` ext3 IO latency measurements (was: Linux 2.6.29) Frans Pop
2009-03-26 17:32                                         ` Bill Nottingham
2009-03-26 17:41                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 18:23                                             ` Bill Nottingham
2009-03-26 22:24                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 13:47                                                 ` Bill Nottingham
2009-03-26 18:54                                           ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26 15:28                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 23:02                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 23:59                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27  0:08                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-27  0:40                                           ` Jesse Barnes
2009-03-31 11:51                                   ` Neil Brown
2009-03-26 12:22                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-03-26 12:23                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-03-26 14:38                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 18:11                                 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26 18:35                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27 21:26                                     ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26 22:39                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 22:57                                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27 21:38                                       ` Jan Kara
2009-03-27 22:10                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28 19:43                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-09 21:59                                 ` updated: ext3 IO latency measurements on v2.6.30-rc1 Ingo Molnar
2009-04-10  7:34                                   ` Heinz Diehl
2009-05-18 16:37                                   ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2009-03-25 23:57                             ` Linux 2.6.29 Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26  0:22                               ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26  1:34                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26  2:59                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 16:24                                   ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 13:20             ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-24 13:30               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 13:51                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-24 16:34                   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-24 17:32                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 18:20                   ` Mark Lord
2009-03-24 18:41                     ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-24 13:52               ` Alan Cox
2009-03-24 14:28                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-24 15:18                   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-24 17:55                 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 17:55               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 18:41                 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-24 19:17                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 18:45                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-24 19:21                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 19:40                     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-24 19:55                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-25  9:34                       ` Benny Halevy
2009-03-25  9:39                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 19:32                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-25 19:43                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-25 19:43                           ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 19:49                             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-25 19:57                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 20:41                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-03-26  8:57                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26 14:47                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-03-26 15:46                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26 18:21                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-03-26 18:32                                           ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26 19:00                                             ` Hugh Dickins
2009-03-26 19:03                                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 20:16                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-25 20:25                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-25 21:22                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-03-26  8:59                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 19:05                                     ` range-based cache flushing (was Re: Linux 2.6.29) Jeff Garzik
2009-04-01  0:14                                       ` James Bottomley
2009-04-01  1:28                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-01 21:20                                           ` James Bottomley
2009-03-25 21:27                                 ` Linux 2.6.29 Benny Halevy
2009-03-25 20:25                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-25 20:40                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 20:57                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-25 23:02                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26  0:28                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-26  1:36                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 21:29                                 ` [PATCH] issue storage device flush via sync_blockdev() (was Re: Linux 2.6.29) Jeff Garzik
2009-03-25 21:56                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-25 23:08                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  2:31                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-26 14:19                                         ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-26  0:58                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-26  1:26                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  1:33                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  1:39                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-26  8:24                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-27  7:59                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 22:01                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-25 23:12                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  3:24                                   ` [PATCH v2] issue storage device flush via sync_blockdev() Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27  2:50                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27  3:17                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27  3:30                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 20:50                                     ` [PATCH] issue storage dev flush from generic file_fsync helper Jeff Garzik
2009-03-29  8:25                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-30  1:25                                         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30  1:36                                           ` [PATCH 1/5] block: Add block_flush_device() Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30  1:40                                           ` [PATCH 2/5] ext3: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync() Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30  1:51                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30  2:50                                               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:04                                                 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:09                                                   ` [PATCH 1/7] block: Add block_flush_device() Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 15:07                                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-31  6:09                                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 17:34                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 17:50                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 17:55                                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 18:27                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 18:54                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 19:16                                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 19:24                                                               ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 20:09                                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-30 20:15                                                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 19:59                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 20:31                                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 19:45                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 20:17                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 20:36                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31  2:14                                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-31  2:47                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31  6:04                                                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 11:15                                                                       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-31 14:55                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31 15:22                                                                           ` Chris Mason
2009-03-31 15:41                                                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-31 16:15                                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31 16:43                                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 16:57                                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31 17:19                                                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-01  0:54                                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-31 17:03                                                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-01  0:43                                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-31 17:14                                                                               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-31 19:25                                                                             ` Mark Lord
2009-03-31 15:54                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31 16:29                                                                             ` Alan Cox
2009-03-31  6:01                                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 20:52                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 20:57                                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-31 13:16                                                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-03-31 13:23                                                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-03-31 13:28                                                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-03-31 15:49                                                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-31 16:37                                                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 12:11                                                   ` [PATCH 2/7] ext3: call blkdev_issue_flush() on fsync() Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 14:04                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-30 14:15                                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 14:33                                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-31  1:26                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-31  1:58                                                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-31  2:14                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-31 11:18                                                             ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 21:29                                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-01  1:03                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-30 12:15                                                   ` [PATCH 3/7] ext4: " Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:18                                                   ` [PATCH 4/7] vfs: call blkdev_issue_flush() from generic file_fsync() helper Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:22                                                   ` [PATCH 5/7] vfs: Add wbcflush sysfs knob to disable storage device writeback cache flushes Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:36                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 14:18                                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 14:35                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31  6:49                                                           ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-31 10:38                                                             ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 11:56                                                               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 15:14                                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-30 17:51                                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 17:55                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 17:59                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 19:09                                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 20:56                                                               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-30 22:01                                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 12:33                                                   ` [PATCH 6/7] xfs: propagate issue-flush error code Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 15:20                                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-31 23:37                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2009-04-01  3:52                                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:36                                                   ` [PATCH 7/7] reiserfs: " Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 15:25                                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-30  1:43                                           ` [PATCH 3/5] ext4: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30  1:53                                           ` [PATCH 4/5] vfs: call blkdev_issue_flush from generic file_fsync helper Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30  1:59                                           ` [PATCH 5/5] vfs: Add wbcflush sysfs knob to disable storage device writeback cache flushes Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-25 21:33                                 ` Linux 2.6.29 Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27  7:57                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-27 14:13                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 14:35                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-27 15:03                                       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-27 20:38                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28  0:14                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-29  8:25                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-27 19:14                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-03-27  7:46                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 20:49                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-31 22:02                               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-31 22:22                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-01 18:34                                   ` Mark Lord
2009-03-24 20:24               ` David Rees
2009-03-25  7:30                 ` David Rees
2009-03-24 23:03               ` Jesse Barnes
2009-03-25  0:05                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-25 17:59                   ` David Rees
2009-03-25 18:40                   ` Stephen Clark
2009-03-26 23:53                     ` Mark Lord
2009-03-25  2:09                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25  3:57                   ` Jesse Barnes
2009-03-27 11:27                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-03-24 12:27           ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-02 14:00   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 13:02 ` Revert "gro: Fix legacy path napi_complete crash", (was: Re: Linux 2.6.29) Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 13:12   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 13:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 13:35   ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-24 14:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 14:33   ` Robert Schwebel
2009-03-24 14:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:09       ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-24 15:29         ` Sascha Hauer
2009-03-24 15:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:59             ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-24 16:02               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 19:19                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 20:54                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 21:17                     ` Revert "gro: Fix legacy path napi_complete crash", David Miller
2009-03-24 22:01                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25  0:33                   ` Revert "gro: Fix legacy path napi_complete crash", (was: Re: Linux 2.6.29) Herbert Xu
2009-03-25  0:32                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-25  2:09                   ` Revert "gro: Fix legacy path napi_complete crash", David Miller
2009-03-24 21:36         ` David Miller
2009-03-24 22:47           ` David Miller
2009-03-25  0:24             ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-25  0:23           ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-25  2:11             ` David Miller
2009-03-25  7:33               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25  8:04                 ` David Miller
2009-03-25 12:08                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-25 12:20                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 12:26                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-25 22:01                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 22:20                         ` Ken Witherow
2009-03-26  9:07                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-26  9:25                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 22:54                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-26  0:03                         ` David Miller
2009-03-26  0:10                         ` David Miller
2009-03-26  6:43                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-26  7:52                             ` David Miller
2009-03-26  7:59                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-26  2:41                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-26  3:20                           ` David Miller
2009-03-26  3:40                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-26  9:18                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-26  7:39                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-26  7:59                   ` David Miller
2009-03-25  9:34             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:22       ` Revert "gro: Fix legacy path napi_complete crash", (was: Re: Linux 2.6.29) Sascha Hauer
2009-03-27 13:35 ` Linux 2.6.29 Hans-Peter Jansen
2009-03-27 14:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-03-27 15:46     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-27 16:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28  7:50         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-30 22:00         ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2009-03-30 22:07           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-30 10:18             ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-31 13:33             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-31 15:30             ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2009-03-31 19:37             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-31 19:47               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-02 19:01           ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-27 16:49   ` Frans Pop

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