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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] perf_counter: add more context information
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:16:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090402181629.GC6340@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1238672770.8530.5901.camel@twins>


* Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 13:36 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> > 
> > > Put in counts to tell which ips belong to what context.
> > > 
> > >   -----
> > >    | |  hv
> > >    | --
> > > nr | |  kernel
> > >    | --
> > >    | |  user
> > >   -----
> > 
> > btw., i have an observation about the format:
> > 
> > > -#define MAX_STACK_DEPTH		255
> > > +#define MAX_STACK_DEPTH		254
> > >  
> > >  struct perf_callchain_entry {
> > > -	u64	nr;
> > > +	u32	nr, hv, kernel, user;
> > >  	u64	ip[MAX_STACK_DEPTH];
> > >  };
> > 
> > For the special case of signal notifications, if the signal is 
> > delivered immediately to the same task that raised it (pid=0), the 
> > call chain is actually a still meaningful one: it is the stack that 
> > is below the currently executing signal handler context.
> > 
> > Wouldnt it make sense to record the full stack frame for that 
> > case, to allow walking/unwinding of the stack? Or can user-space 
> > do that just fine, based on its own signal context?
> 
> I think it can do that just fine or even better than we can -- 
> userspace having access to a full dwarf2 unwinder and such.

eventually we'll have one in the kernel too, but yeah, user-space 
can do this better. It will have precise details about the runtime 
environment.

And any async mechanism has no chance to do anything useful with 
stack frame info anyway - that stack frame might be long gone.

> > We are going to hard-code the "call-chain is a series of IPs, 
> > nothing else" model, and i'd like to make sure it's future-proof
> > :)
> 
> I think it should be, function return addresses are the primary 
> piece of information here.

ok - good - just wanted to make sure :)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-02 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-02  9:11 [PATCH 0/6] more perf_counter stuff Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02  9:11 ` [PATCH 1/6] perf_counter: move the event overflow output bits to record_type Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 11:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 11:43   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 11:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 12:03   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 22:33   ` [PATCH 1/6] " Corey Ashford
2009-04-02 23:27     ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-03  6:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-03  7:30         ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-02  9:12 ` [PATCH 2/6] RFC perf_counter: singleshot support Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 10:51   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 11:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 12:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 21:23         ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-02 12:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 18:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02  9:12 ` [PATCH 3/6] perf_counter: per event wakeups Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 11:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 12:03   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02  9:12 ` [PATCH 4/6] perf_counter: kerneltop: update to new ABI Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 12:03   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 13:35     ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 13:59       ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 18:11         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:22           ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 18:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:38               ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 19:20                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:51               ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 18:32             ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02  9:12 ` [PATCH 5/6] perf_counter: add more context information Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 11:36   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 11:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 18:16       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-02 11:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 18:18       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 18:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:42             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 19:19               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 12:04   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-03 12:50   ` [PATCH 5/6] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-03 18:25     ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-06 11:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-06 11:07         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-06 18:53           ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-06 19:06             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-06 20:16               ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-06 20:46                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-06 21:15                   ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-06 21:21                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-06 21:33                       ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-07  7:11                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-07 16:27                           ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-02  9:12 ` [PATCH 6/6] perf_counter: update mmap() counter read Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 12:04   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra

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