From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
hpa@zytor.com, tglx@linutronix.de, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
davej@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Fix quilt merge error in acpi-cpufreq.c
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:23:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090416072354.GA3031@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0904151918370.4042@localhost.localdomain>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > Show me one person _you_ actually taught to write good
> > changelogs - just one person who was not a natural born talker
> > to begin with. I'll show you a 100 other people who cannot write
> > good commit logs. They'll try and will limp along, but generally
> > they cannot.
> >
> > They might not even have English as their mother tongue - but
> > still can read and understand C fantastically.
>
> So?
>
> The fix for that is not to write crap English. The fix for that is
> to help them, and/or just fix their comments for them.
>
> I really don't see the point of your argument. "People don't
> always write good and complete sentences" is _not_ an argument for
> then making that a standard.
>
> Just fix things up. Edit their emails. I do. Andrew does. Yes, and
> despite that some commits will still have odd grammar or otherwise
> not be the great novel of the century, and that's not the point.
> But we should _improve_ on the language for people who aren't
> native English speakers, not devolve it to something weaker.
I too end up editing the language and typography non-trivially for
about 90% of all patches i apply, so there is certainly no lack of
effort here either.
Moving the impact line to the tags section certainly sounds like a
good solution to make the main flow of the commit be natural
language - while still keeping most of the good aspects of the tag
for those who want to use them.
So if that variant now has the official penguin-pee on it, i'd like
to move back to maintaining^W editing commits! :)
Note: today is a flag day when i'll flip over to putting the
impact-tag to the tail section - you'll still see impact lines at
the head of the commit for already committed bits. They might thus
show up in the next merge window or even later (if a topic needs
more work than that).
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-16 7:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200904140159.n3E1x1K1014705@hera.kernel.org>
2009-04-14 2:05 ` Fix quilt merge error in acpi-cpufreq.c Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 5:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 10:44 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-15 15:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-15 16:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 16:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-15 17:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-15 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-15 18:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-15 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-15 20:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 21:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 21:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-15 22:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 23:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 0:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 0:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 0:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 0:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 4:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-16 7:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 15:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-04-15 23:49 ` David Miller
2009-04-16 11:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-15 21:17 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 23:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 21:23 ` David Miller
2009-04-15 22:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 23:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 0:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 1:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 1:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 2:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 7:23 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-16 3:55 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-16 7:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 15:41 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-04-16 13:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-04-16 2:00 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-16 2:22 ` Paul Gortmaker
2009-04-16 2:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 3:10 ` Ray Lee
2009-04-16 7:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 11:57 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-16 13:55 ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-04-20 8:14 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-20 10:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 4:18 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-21 19:37 ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-04-22 1:58 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-16 1:27 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-16 2:31 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-16 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 15:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-15 15:22 ` Ali Gholami Rudi
2009-04-15 16:41 ` Ingo Molnar
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2009-04-16 5:46 ` Niel Lambrechts
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