From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@texware.it>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip] remove the BKL: Replace BKL in mount/umount syscalls with a mutex
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:01:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090416170150.GA526@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090416164927.GB19281@elte.hu>
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 06:49:27PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> They dont really protect anything - the patch is wrong and
> equivalent to a plain removal of the BKL.
>
> The only case we found to ever matter in practice is NFS: it really
> wants to get rid of the BKL in nfsd_get_sb(). So pushing down the
> BKL lock into per filesystems and then removing it from NFS should
> do the trick.
>
> Would be nice to have some tentative Ack (or, a tentative
> non-immediate-NAK) from Al before we go touch a lot of filesystems
> though. Stupid dont-waste-human-effort considerations and stuff.
>
> For us, the much simpler solution would be to drop the BKL in
> nfsd_get_sb() and go on with life without to touch a dozen or so
> filesystems. Alessio, mind trying that too, is it a solution for
> your testcase?
What about trying to attack it piece-mail? ->unmount_begin is really
easy. The only one that doesn't protect everything properly is
9p, but it doesn't protect the state variable deep down a few levels
of function calls at all.
->remount_fs should be easy enough to, we do have proper per-sb
protection here, but do_remount_sb will need a bit of an audit.
(and of course pushing lock_kernel down into the many instances and
leave the cleanup-work to the fs maintainers).
The actual mount path is more interesting as there are quite a few cases
there. As a first step you can take lock_kernel from outside do_mount
into the various do_foo calls inside it, and then work on those piece
by piece.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-16 17:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-16 14:27 [PATCH -tip] remove the BKL: Replace BKL in mount/umount syscalls with a mutex Alessio Igor Bogani
2009-04-16 14:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-16 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 17:01 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2009-04-16 17:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 0:05 ` Al Viro
2009-04-16 16:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 16:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 23:56 ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 0:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 0:13 ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 0:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 0:38 ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 16:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 17:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 17:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-17 17:31 ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-04-17 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-17 18:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-22 17:28 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-17 18:08 ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 18:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 17:41 ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 17:34 ` Al Viro
2009-04-16 23:49 ` Al Viro
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