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From: Johan Herland <johan@herland.net>
To: Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Subject: Re: [doc] User Manual Suggestion
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:30:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200904242230.13239.johan@herland.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4087cc50904231730i1e8a005cpaf1921e23df11da6@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday 24 April 2009, Michael Witten wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 17:51, Johan Herland <johan@herland.net> wrote:
> > There's also http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~cduan/technical/git/ which I
> > think is a great bottom-up introduction:
> > - not too heavy on the concepts
>
> I really don't understand this mentality. Concepts are the only things
> that are important. From concepts falls all else.

Sorry for not being clear: Concepts are indeed (and should be) important. 
What I mean is that the concepts introduced are short and simple enough for 
novice users to understand (without much VCS experience, if any at all). If 
we start off _too_ detailed, we risk loosing the audience, and no one is 
better off.

Like Jeff King said elsewhere in this thread: We want to start a little 
higher from the bottom. The above introduction does not focus on blobs or 
trees, but manages to introduce Git in a useful manner by starting off with 
only two concepts: commits and refs. With only these two concepts, and 
showing how high-level commands (remember: no plumbing) work with these 
concepts, I believe it is possible to teach anyone to use Git well. Of 
course, as users progress towards becoming power-users, more concepts are 
needed, but I don't think these are needed from the start.

As Einstein might have said: As simple as possible, but no simpler.


Have fun!

...Johan

-- 
Johan Herland, <johan@herland.net>
www.herland.net

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-24 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-22 19:38 [doc] User Manual Suggestion David Abrahams
2009-04-23 17:57 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-23 18:37   ` Michael Witten
2009-04-23 20:16     ` Jeff King
2009-04-23 20:45       ` Michael Witten
2009-04-23 21:31         ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24  0:31           ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 14:18           ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 14:20             ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-24 17:28             ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 18:15               ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 19:00                 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 20:24                   ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 21:06                     ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 22:45                       ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-25  0:39                         ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 23:35                           ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-24 14:11         ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 14:30           ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 14:33             ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 15:04             ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 15:18               ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 17:38                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-24 18:27                   ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 18:35                     ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                   ` <34BD51FF-0908-48A8-BBBC-E27B0EFB32E5@boostpro.com>
2009-04-24 18:52                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-25 10:35                       ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-24 19:12                   ` Michael Witten
2009-04-23 21:26       ` David Abrahams
2009-04-23 22:51         ` Johan Herland
2009-04-24  0:30           ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 20:30             ` Johan Herland [this message]
2009-04-24 21:34               ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-24 21:38                 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 22:18                   ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 22:25                     ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:11                       ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-24 23:14                         ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 23:18                           ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:31                           ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:35                             ` Jeff King
2009-04-25  0:19                               ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 10:18                           ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-24 23:26                         ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 18:55                           ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-25 19:16                             ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 19:24                               ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-25 19:36                                 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-25 20:53                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-26 11:28                                   ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-26 13:55                                     ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 17:56                                       ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-26 20:17                                         ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 22:25                                           ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-27  1:41                                             ` David Abrahams
2009-04-27 16:30                                             ` David Abrahams
2009-04-27 16:52                                               ` Michael Witten
2009-04-26 16:36                                     ` Michael Witten
2009-04-26 18:12                                       ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-26 20:20                                         ` David Abrahams
2009-04-25  0:41                         ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 23:16                     ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-25  0:01                       ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25  0:48                         ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 22:42                           ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-02 15:53                         ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-02 18:36                           ` Michael Witten
2009-05-02 21:11                             ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-02 23:13                               ` Michael Witten
2009-05-02 23:32                                 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-03  1:10                                   ` Michael Witten
2009-05-03  1:48                                     ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-03  1:18                                 ` Mark Lodato
2009-05-03  1:26                                   ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:21                   ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-24 23:25                     ` Jeff King
2009-04-26 23:41                       ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-24 23:29                     ` Michael Witten
2009-04-27  0:00                       ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-25  0:19                   ` David Abrahams
2009-04-25  0:26                     ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25  0:35                     ` Jeff King
2009-04-25  0:53                       ` David Abrahams
2009-04-29  6:34                         ` Jeff King
2009-04-29 13:27                           ` David Abrahams
2009-04-29 14:05                             ` Jeff King
2009-04-24  2:29     ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-24  2:34       ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24  4:06       ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 14:10         ` J. Bruce Fields

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