All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] sd: fix cache flushing message
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:54:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200904292354.03136.bzolnier@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1241039642.3369.67.camel@mulgrave.int.hansenpartnership.com>

On Wednesday 29 April 2009 23:14:02 James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 22:53 +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> > On Wednesday 29 April 2009 22:22:51 Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > > James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 22:06 +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> > > >> Signed-off-by: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
> > > >> ---
> > > >> some minor sd.c fixups against linux-next
> > > >>
> > > >>  drivers/scsi/sd.c |    4 ++--
> > > >>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > >>
> > > >> Index: b/drivers/scsi/sd.c
> > > >> ===================================================================
> > > >> --- a/drivers/scsi/sd.c
> > > >> +++ b/drivers/scsi/sd.c
> > > >> @@ -2140,7 +2140,7 @@ static void sd_shutdown(struct device *d
> > > >>  		return;         /* this can happen */
> > > >>  
> > > >>  	if (sdkp->WCE) {
> > > >> -		sd_printk(KERN_NOTICE, sdkp, "Synchronizing SCSI cache\n");
> > > >> +		sd_printk(KERN_NOTICE, sdkp, "Synchronizing disk cache\n");
> > > >>  		sd_sync_cache(sdkp);
> > > >>  	}
> > > >>  
> > > >> @@ -2161,7 +2161,7 @@ static int sd_suspend(struct device *dev
> > > >>  		return 0;	/* this can happen */
> > > >>  
> > > >>  	if (sdkp->WCE) {
> > > >> -		sd_printk(KERN_NOTICE, sdkp, "Synchronizing SCSI cache\n");
> > > >> +		sd_printk(KERN_NOTICE, sdkp, "Synchronizing disk cache\n");
> > > >>  		ret = sd_sync_cache(sdkp);
> > > >>  		if (ret)
> > > >>  			goto done;
> > > > 
> > > > So you want it to say 
> > > > 
> > > > sda: synchronizing disk cache
> > > > 
> > > > instead of
> > > > 
> > > > sda: synchronizing SCSI cache
> > > > 
> > > > I don't really see that buying us anything in terms of clarity.  What's
> > > > the actual problem it solves?
> > 
> > Inconsistent kernel messages:
> > 
> > 	if (sdkp->WCE) {
> > 		sd_printk(KERN_NOTICE, sdkp, "Synchronizing SCSI cache\n");
> > 		sd_sync_cache(sdkp);
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	if (system_state != SYSTEM_RESTART && sdkp->device->manage_start_stop) {
> > 		sd_printk(KERN_NOTICE, sdkp, "Stopping disk\n");
> > 		sd_start_stop_device(sdkp, 0);
> > 	}
> > 
> > > Indeed.
> > > 
> > > And we can argue for weeks about English text, too.  Non-disk devices 
> > 
> > Or we can just apply the patch and go back with the program.
> > 
> > > like SSDs have caches too, so I'd say "SCSI cache" is more accurate than 
> > > "disk cache".  But maybe "SCSI writeback cache" would be even better.
> > 
> > Could you please explain me what *SCSI* cache is?
> 
> It's the cache described by SBC (SCSI Block Commandset).

Sorry, I don't buy it.

There is no "SCSI cache" in the SBC spec (at least not in sbc2r16).

> > Does ATA disks have *SCSI* cache (whatever it is)?
> 
> Only if you use it via SAT (SCSI to ATA translation).

Hmm, and without SAT there is ATA cache, right? :)

> > Please also note that sd.c uses "disk" all over the place.
> 
> Yes, but I think the four other suggestions for text demonstrate the
> need to get something worm proof back on this can ASAP.

Well, "SCSI device writeback cache" should be fine with everybody, no? ;)

Anyway, please just scrap that patch.

Thanks,
Bart

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-29 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-29 20:06 [PATCH 1/4] sd: fix cache flushing message Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-04-29 20:20 ` James Bottomley
2009-04-29 20:22   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 20:36     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-29 20:41       ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-29 20:53     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-04-29 21:14       ` James Bottomley
2009-04-29 21:54         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2009-04-30 11:35           ` Douglas Gilbert
2009-04-30 12:32             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=200904292354.03136.bzolnier@gmail.com \
    --to=bzolnier@gmail.com \
    --cc=James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com \
    --cc=jeff@garzik.org \
    --cc=linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.