From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] ring-buffer: make cpu buffer entries counter atomic
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:52:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090501165258.GA26143@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0905011230350.20374@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
* Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 1 May 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > > > > the counter too. This would cause missing entries to be added.
> > > > >
> > > > > > - unsigned long entries;
> > > > > > + atomic_t entries;
> > > > >
> > > > > Hm, that's not really good as atomics can be rather expensive and
> > > > > this is the fastpath.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, it could be local_t. I used that in a lot of the other places.
> > > > The race is with on CPU not other CPUs, and on archs like x86 there
> > > > is not cost of the "LOCK".
> > >
> > > Ug, it must be atomic_t. It is also modified by the reader. Thus
> > > it is not only a race with a single CPU but also multiple CPUs.
> > >
> > > This means that interrupts disabled is not the only proctection it
> > > needs. It must either be an atomic, or protected by a spinlock.
> >
> > Trace buffers are rather fundamentally per cpu. Where's the
> > problem?
>
> The entries keeps track of the number of entries in the buffer. A
> writer (producer) adds to the counter and readers (consumers)
> subtract from them. A writer can subtract them if it overwrites a
> page before the producer consumes it.
>
> Only the writers are pinned to a CPU, the readers happen on any
> CPU.
But that does not require atomicity. It requires careful use of
barriers, but otherwise atomicity is not needed. Update of machine
word variables (if they are aligned to a machine word) is guaranteed
to be atomic, even without atomic_t overhead.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-01 16:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-01 2:22 [PATCH 0/3] [GIT PULL] tracing/ringbuffer: updates for tip Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 2:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] ring-buffer: add counters for commit overrun and nmi dropped entries Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 3:00 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 3:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 3:22 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 3:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 3:38 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 3:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 2:22 ` [PATCH 2/3] tracing: export stats of ring buffers to userspace Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 3:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-05-01 3:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 12:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-05-01 2:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] ring-buffer: make cpu buffer entries counter atomic Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 3:06 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 3:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 11:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-01 13:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-05-01 14:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 22:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-05-01 14:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 16:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 16:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-01 16:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 16:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 16:52 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-05-01 17:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 17:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-01 17:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 17:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-01 17:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-01 21:17 ` Steven Rostedt
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