From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1M0dxz-0005e9-RQ for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 11:50:59 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M0dxy-0005do-3Z for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 11:50:58 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M0dxs-0005dK-Oc for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 11:50:57 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35968 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M0dxs-0005dH-JE for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 11:50:52 -0400 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:41466) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M0dxs-0006kK-0k for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 11:50:52 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M0dkN-0003Rm-On for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 17:36:56 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M0dxh-0005dY-On for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 17:50:41 +0200 Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 17:50:41 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090503155041.GA21659@thorin> References: <1239032043.8986.27.camel@mj> <1239664820.13208.50.camel@mj> <20090502113114.GA28362@thorin> <200905030918.02859.ml@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200905030918.02859.ml@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: [PATCH] Video mode fixes in linux loader X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 15:50:58 -0000 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 09:18:02AM -0400, Isaac Dupree wrote: > Robert Millan wrote: > > > > > Some > > > > > kernels may not support VESA modes at all. > > > > > > > > I don't think this is applicable; all modern versions of Linux include > > > > vesa modesetting in its 16-bit entry code, and older versions are > > > > already detected by the new loader (user is prompted to use linux16). > > > > > > I can disable CONFIG_FB, and then the screen remains blank until X > > > starts. It's entirely possible that some distros don't enable CONFIG_FB > > > to save memory, and I don't always enable it in the kernels I configure > > > myself. > > > > Makes sense for official GRUB. > > > > However, I'd still like to add a macro check that can be enabled on distros > > that ship Linux builds with CONFIG_FB and want to enable seamless mode > > transition (this will be the case for e.g. Debian). > > Can we have GRUB2 not be distro-dependent, We aren't talking about making GRUB distro-dependant, only about what is the default behaviour when user didn't specify any. Official GRUB, as discussed, will default to text mode. I don't see why downstream distributors would need to do the same, since it's so easy to override in case a user needs that. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."