From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Peter Feuerer <peter@piie.net>
Cc: petkovbb@gmail.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
lenb@kernel.org, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Control
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:30:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090519203015.GA1362@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cone.1242065107.695268.13534.1000@onepiie>
Hi!
>> the more I'm looking at the driver, the more I get annoyed by that
>> user/kernel mode operation split. Remind me again why the driver should
>> be loaded and not started automatically but the user should be required
>> to activate it explicitly?
>
> The idea of not starting the module in kernel mode was from Matthew. And
> he stated that it could harm the hardware when software controls the fan
> instead of the BIOS. It may also be possible, that the warranty gets
Well... hw is usually designed to protect itself.
>> That's not so optimal, I'd say. The kernel module should _replace_
>> the userspace program, not work alongside it, since the last is flaky
>> and unreliable, and this was the main reason the kernel module was
>> introduced in the first place - to control the fan from kernel space,
>> which is the more sane choice.
>
> The main reason to do this in kernel was the availabilty of atomic ec-
> read and write functions. But I agree with you that either kernel or BIOS
> should control the fan and not a userspace tool. I added the user mode
> just because it wasn't really much more code than just an implementation
> of the enable/disable functionality.
Kernels crash, too, just like userspace does. It would still make
sense to allow userspace to increase fan speed.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-22 6:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-25 1:45 [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Control Peter Feuerer
2009-04-25 8:42 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-26 15:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-04-27 18:25 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-26 17:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-04-27 18:57 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-28 7:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-04-28 10:04 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-04-28 20:17 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-28 20:31 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-05-02 21:21 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-03 18:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-06 19:41 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-06 22:17 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-09 17:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-11 18:05 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-12 6:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-18 18:04 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-18 20:20 ` Joe Perches
2009-05-19 6:47 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-19 7:06 ` Joe Perches
2009-05-24 19:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-01 14:12 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 7:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-03 8:10 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 10:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-03 11:29 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 13:07 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 14:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-01 14:18 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 7:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-03 7:52 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 8:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-19 20:30 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-05-22 11:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-22 14:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-22 14:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-24 11:13 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-22 16:10 ` [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Contro Andreas Mohr
2009-05-22 18:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-22 19:35 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-04-26 22:20 ` [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Control Joe Perches
2009-04-27 19:03 ` Peter Feuerer
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