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From: "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>
To: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Request for detailed documentation of git pack protocol
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:56:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090603165613.GJ3355@spearce.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200906031851.12160.jnareb@gmail.com>

Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
> > Oh, and send-pack/receive-pack protocol now has ".have" refs [...]
> 
> What are those ".have" refs? They are not described in current version
> of "Transfer Protocols" (sub)section in "The Community Book". I remember
> that they were discussed on git mailing list, but I don't remember what
> they were about...

If the remote receiving repository has alternates, the ".have" refs are
the refs of the alternate repositories.  This signals to the client that
the server has these objects reachable, but the client isn't permitted
to send commands to alter these refs.

Its good for a site like GitHub or repo.or.cz where cheap forks are
implemented by creating a repository that points to a common shared
base via alternates.  The ".have" refs say that the server already
has everything in that common shared base, so the client doesn't
have to re-upload the entire project if the fork started out empty,
or had all refs deleted from it.
 
> > In packed-refs, Junio had a hard time adding the "peeled-refs"
> > support, because the first version of the parser was so strict.
> > But again, somehow he managed to find a backdoor in the old parser,
> > and that backdoor is why that file looks the way it does today.
> 
> I don't remember what that was about... Nevertheless now we have
> kind of 'capabilities' section in .git/packed-refs

Sort of.  In a file format its worse than a network protocol,
because the file can't alter its contents based on what the
reader can understand.
 
> Interesting... even more so that this problem of designing without
> extendability in mind (magic number + version) is so persistent :-(

I know.  I think we maybe have learned the lesson.  I don't know.
 
-- 
Shawn.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-03 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-12 21:29 Request for detailed documentation of git pack protocol Jakub Narebski
2009-05-12 23:34 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14  8:24   ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-14 14:57     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14 15:02       ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-05-15 20:29         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-15 16:51       ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-05-14 18:13     ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-05-14 20:27       ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-14 13:55   ` Scott Chacon
2009-05-14 14:44     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14 15:01     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-15  0:58       ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-05-15 19:05         ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-06-02 21:39     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-02 23:27       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03  0:50         ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03  1:29           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03  2:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03  2:15               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03  9:21             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:48               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 15:07                 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 15:39                   ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 15:50                     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 16:51                 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 16:56                   ` Shawn O. Pearce [this message]
2009-06-03 20:19                     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 20:24                       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 22:04                         ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 22:04                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 22:16                           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03 22:46                             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-04  7:17                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-06-04  7:26                           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-06 16:33                     ` Scott Chacon
2009-06-06 17:24                       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-06 17:41                       ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 21:38                   ` Tony Finch
2009-06-03 17:11                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03 19:05                 ` Johannes Sixt
2009-06-03  2:18           ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-06-03 10:47             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:17               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 20:56           ` Tony Finch
2009-06-03 21:20             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 21:53               ` Tony Finch
2009-06-04  8:45                 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-04 11:41                   ` Tony Finch
2009-06-04 18:41                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 12:29       ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:19         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-04 20:55       ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-04 21:57         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-05  0:45         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-05  7:24           ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-05  8:45             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-06 21:38       ` Comments pack protocol description in "Git Community Book" (second round) Jakub Narebski
2009-06-06 21:58         ` Scott Chacon
2009-06-07  8:21           ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-07 20:13             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-07 20:43           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-13  9:30           ` Comments pack protocol description in "RFC for the Git Packfile Protocol" (long) Jakub Narebski
2009-06-07 20:06         ` Comments pack protocol description in "Git Community Book" (second round) Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-09  9:39           ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-09 14:28             ` Shawn O. Pearce

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