From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: dlaor@redhat.com, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Brian Stein <bstein@redhat.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert.xu@redhat.com>, Dor Laor <dor@redhat.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Yaron Haviv <yaronh@voltaire.com>,
Shahar Klein <shahark@voltaire.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: TODO list for qemu+KVM networking performance v2
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:53:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090610145358.GB28601@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200906110009.34671.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:09:33AM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:56:31 pm Dor Laor wrote:
> > Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > The current theoretical hole is that the host suppresses notifications
> > > using the VIRTIO_AVAIL_F_NO_NOTIFY flag, but we can get a number of
> > > notifications in before it gets to that suppression. You can use a
> > > counter to improve this: you only notify when they're equal, and inc when
> > > you notify. That way you suppress further notifications even if the
> > > other side takes ages to wake up. In practice, this shouldn't be played
> > > with until we have full aio (or equiv in kernel) for other side: host
> > > xmit tends to be too fast at the moment and we get a notification per
> > > packet anyway.
> >
> > Xen ring has the exact optimization for ages. imho we should have it
> > too, regardless of aio.
> > It reduces #vmexits/spurious wakeups and it is very simple to implement.
>
> But look at number of wakeups received vs notifications sent: I just don't see
> any benefit there at the moment. As I said, improving the host code might
> change that significantly.
>
> And implementing it the other way is v. v. hard given the nature of interrupts
> (shared and coalesced).
I agree it's not such a simple thing to implement race-free,
so I do buy the argument that we shouldn't unless it gives
a performance benefit.
But I don't understand how aio will make implementing it easier -
or are you merely saying that it will make it worthwhile?
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-10 14:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-04 16:43 TODO list for qemu+KVM networking performance v2 Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-04 17:16 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 17:16 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 17:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-04 17:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-04 17:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 18:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-04 18:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-04 17:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-10 3:39 ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-10 3:39 ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-10 6:26 ` Dor Laor
2009-06-10 14:39 ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-10 14:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 14:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-06-10 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-10 15:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 15:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-10 16:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 16:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-10 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-10 6:26 ` Dor Laor
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2009-06-04 16:43 Michael S. Tsirkin
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