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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	paulus@samba.org, acme@redhat.com, efault@gmx.de,
	npiggin@suse.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [tip:perfcounters/core] x86: Add NMI types for kmap_atomic
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:28:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090617122812.GD13316@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1245224675.13761.21598.camel@twins>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 10:13 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> > > By removing the types it becomes very difficult to verify the max 
> > > depth. I really don't like removing them.
> > 
> > The fact that it implies an atomic section pretty much limits its 
> > depth in practice, doesnt it?
> > 
> > All we need to track in the debug code is 
> > max-{syscall,softirq,hardirq,nmi}. The sum of these 4 counts 
> > must be smaller than the max - even if (as you are right to 
> > point out) we dont hit that magic combo that truly maximizes the 
> > depth.
> 
> Right, so the thing I'd worry about is someone adding 
> kmap_atomic() to an interrupt context that didn't have interrupts 
> disabled and then managing to nest that a few times.
> 
> Suppose you put it in some IO completion handler, and someone has 
> 4 IO controllers installed and all 4 IO interrupts come in at the 
> 'same' time.
> 
> With types you could warn on similarly to what we do today, but 
> with the simple push/pop that might be a lot harder.

Yes, fixed-purpose allocations are easier to warn about - they imply 
more constraints, no doubt about that.

But we could warn about using kmap-atomic with in irq context with 
irqs enabled and thus exclude the case you are worried about?

> Anyway, with the whole cr2 fiddling bit being discussed this seems 
> to become redundant.

It's not just the cr2 fiddling but also conversion of pagefault 
returns from IRET to RET. The kmap_atomic API change is a nice 
cleanup in itself.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-17 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <tip-3ff0141aa3a03ca3388b40b36167d0a37919f3fd@git.kernel.org>
2009-06-15 14:46 ` [tip:perfcounters/core] x86: Add NMI types for kmap_atomic Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-15 15:30   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-15 15:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-15 15:52       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-15 16:02         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-15 18:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-15 18:15         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-15 18:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-15 18:25             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-15 18:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-15 18:42                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-15 18:47                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-15 18:52                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-15 19:00                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-16  8:13                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-16 12:38                           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-17  7:58                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-17  8:43                               ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-17  9:05                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-17  7:44                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-17 12:28                             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-06-15 18:42         ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-15 18:45           ` Peter Zijlstra

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