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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	avi@redhat.com, davidel@xmailserver.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [KVM PATCH v2 2/2] kvm: use POLLHUP to close an irqfd instead of an explicit ioctl
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:49:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090618064908.GB11155@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200906181446.31373.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 02:46:30PM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:24:39 pm Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:08:18AM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> > > Hmm.  I understand what you are saying conceptually (i.e. the .text
> > > could get yanked before we hit the next line of code, in this case the
> > > "return 0").  However, holding a reference when you _know_ someone else
> > > holds a reference to me says that one of the references is redundant.
> > > In addition, there is certainly plenty of precedence for
> > > module_put(THIS_MODULE) all throughout the kernel (including
> > > module_put_and_exit()).  Are those broken as well?
> >
> > Maybe not, but I don't know why. It works fine as long as you don't
> > unload any modules though :) Rusty, could you enlighten us please?
> 
> Yep, they're almost all broken.  A few have comments indicating that someone 
> else is holding a reference (eg. loopback).
> 
> But at some point you give up playing whack-a-mole for random drivers.
> 
> module_put_and_exit() does *not* have this problem, BTW.
> 
> Rusty.

I see that, the .text for module_put_and_exit is never modular itself.
Thanks, Rusty!

BTW, Gregory, this can be used to fix the race in the design: create a
thread and let it drop the module reference with module_put_and_exit.
Which will work, but I guess at this point we should ask ourselves
whether all the hearburn with srcu, threads and module references is
better than just asking the user to call and ioctl.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-18  6:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-04 12:48 [KVM PATCH v2 0/2] irqfd: use POLLHUP notification for close() Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 12:48 ` [KVM PATCH v2 1/2] Allow waiters to be notified about the eventfd file* going away, and give Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 12:48 ` [KVM PATCH v2 2/2] kvm: use POLLHUP to close an irqfd instead of an explicit ioctl Gregory Haskins
2009-06-14 11:49   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-14 12:53     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-14 13:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15  3:39         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-15  9:46           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15 12:08             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-15 12:54               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-18  5:16                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-18  6:49                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-06-18 12:00                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-18 12:22                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-18 14:03                         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-18 14:35                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-18 16:29                             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-19 15:37                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-19 16:07                                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-15  3:48         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 14:02 ` [KVM PATCH v2 0/2] irqfd: use POLLHUP notification for close() Avi Kivity
2009-06-12  3:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-12  4:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-14 12:38   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-14 12:51     ` Avi Kivity

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