From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MIVy0-0005lH-RY for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:56:52 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MIVxy-0005lC-TT for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:56:50 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MIVxt-0005kz-SM for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:56:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60805 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MIVxt-0005kw-Ka for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:56:45 -0400 Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.3.142]:33206) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MIVxt-0005jK-3c for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:56:45 -0400 Received: from [82.69.40.219] (helo=riva.pelham.vpn.ucam.org) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MIVxr-0004zO-D8; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:56:43 +0000 Received: from cjwatson by riva.pelham.vpn.ucam.org with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1MIVxq-0008O8-00; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:56:42 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:56:42 +0100 From: Colin Watson To: Robert Millan Message-ID: <20090621225642.GZ7367@riva.ucam.org> References: <20090621110757.GB27710@thorin> <20090621172236.GA23270@pina.cat> <20090621184230.GA21495@thorin> <1245611699.4250.19.camel@mj> <20090621210914.GB30440@pina.cat> <20090621211808.GA26117@thorin> <20090621212855.GA31110@pina.cat> <20090621223157.GA32496@pina.cat> <20090621224715.GA2360@thorin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090621224715.GA2360@thorin> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.69.40.219] X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: david.planella@ubuntu.com, The development of GRUB 2 Subject: Re: Fw: gettext support X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:56:51 -0000 On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:47:15AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 11:31:57PM +0100, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > On Jun/22/2009, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > > Actually I think it would be a good move to provide translations of e.g. > > > error strings, output and help texts even if I personally will never use > > > this feature. In other words I would translate the same parts as are > > > translated in a typical linux counterparts. But I would like to discuss > > > other possibilities as well. > > > > same feelings here > > > > Robert, I think that Ubuntu people was interested to translate Grub. Do > > they want to translate only the frontcover or all messages? (for > > example, to do something as easy as adding init=/bin/bash in one > > operating system entry, that users may have to do even if Grub is > > working...) > > > > The patch to translate Grub (booting time) is not very big and should > > not add problems in terms of Grub mantainability (when it's done). > > I suppose input from them will be helpful. Let's CC them. Nobody's given me requirements for this yet so I don't really know for sure. I believe that the requirements we have for translation are mainly requests from OEM distributors who want to tick the boxes for distribution in various locales, mainly making sure that their standard setup displays a boot menu that's legible to each target audience. I would expect that the ability to translate menu text and anything else displayed in normal code paths (e.g. menu header text, advice on keystrokes for editing menu entries, etc.) is most important to us, and anything else is secondary. I don't really care very much about translation of error messages myself. If your system fails to boot then there are loads of things other than the boot loader that might plausibly only be able to give you errors in English anyway. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [cjwatson@ubuntu.com]