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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	andi@firstfloor.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	earl_chew@agilent.com, Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v6)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:37:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090702153736.GA15031@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090702144422.GA8972@hmsreliant.think-freely.org>

On 07/02, Neil Horman wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 01:36:10PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 07/02, Neil Horman wrote:
> > >
> > > > >  void do_coredump(long signr, int exit_code, struct pt_regs *regs)
> > > > >  {
> > > > >  	struct core_state core_state;
> > > > > @@ -1862,6 +1886,8 @@ void do_coredump(long signr, int exit_code, struct pt_regs *regs)
> > > > >  		current->signal->group_exit_code |= 0x80;
> > > > >
> > > > >  close_fail:
> > > > > +	if (ispipe && core_pipe_limit)
> > > > > +		wait_for_dump_helpers(file);
> > > >
> > > > Oh. I thought I misread the first version, but now I see I got it right.
> > > > And now I confused again.
> > > >
> > > > So, we only wait if core_pipe_limit != 0. Why?
> > > >
> > > > The previous version, v4, called wait_for_dump_helpers() unconditionally.
> > > > And this looks more right to me. Once again, even without wait_for_dump()
> > > > the coredumping process can't be reaped until core_pattern app reads all
> > > > data from the pipe.
> > > >
> > > > I won't insist. However, anybody else please take a look?
> > > >
> > > > core_pipe_limit != 0 limits the number of coredump-via-pipe in flight, OK.
> > > >
> > > > But, should wait_for_dump_helpers() depend on core_limit_pipe != 0?
> > > >
> > > I messed this up in v4 and am fixing it here.  If you read the documentation I
> > > added in patch 2, you can see that my intent with the core_pipe_limit sysctl was
> > > to designate 0 as a special value allowing unlimited parallel core_dumps in
> > > which we do not wait for any user space process completion
> >
> > We do wait in any case. If core_dump app doesn't read the data from the pipe
> > ->core_dump() can't complete. OK, unless all data fits into pipe buffers.
> >
> Thats true, but consider the converse situation, in which the userspace app does
> read the pipe, so that we return from ->core_dump().  If the user app then
> queries the /proc/<pid> directory of the crashing  process we are open to race.
> Thats what this wait helps with.

Sure. And I do agree wait_for_dump_helpers() is useful.

And I do agree with core_pipe_limit.

> > > (so that current
> > > system behavior can be maintained, which I think is desireable for those user
> > > space helpers who don't need access to a crashing processes meta data via proc.
> > > If you look above in the second patch where we do an atomic_inc_return, you'll
> > > see that we only honor the core_pipe_limit value if its non-zero.  This addional
> > > check restores the behavior I documented in that patch.
> >
> > If you you look at my message you will see I am not arguing, but I am asking
> > others to ack this behaviour.
> >
> Ok, but you asked the question as to why I added that check, this is the answer.

And I still can't understand your answer.

My question is: why don't we do wait_for_dump_helpers() if core_pipe_limit == 0.

Because I don't really understand how core_pipe_limit connected to
wait_for_dump_helpers(). Because, once again, we have to wait for core_pattern
app in any case.

> > As for implementation, my only complaint is that wait_for_dump_helpers() lacks
> > signal_pending() check, this wasn't answered.
> >
> I'll have to defer to others on this.  It seems to me that, given that we are
> waiting here in the context of process that has already received a fatal signal,
> theres no opportunity to handle subsequent signals,

Yes, we can't handle subsequent signals, but this is not needed.

> I agree we busy wait if a signal is
> pending,

Yes. And this is not nice.

> but if we drop out of the loop if a signal is pending then we cancel
> the wait early, leading to the early removal of the /proc file for the crashing
> process.

Yes. But if signal_pending() == T we already have other problems. In
particular pipe_write() can fail, and in this case the coredump won't
complete anyway.

Hopefully this will be changed soon: the coredumping task should ignore
ignore all signals except SIGKILL which should terminate the coredump,
and in this case of course wait_for_dump_helpers() should abort.

> Could we add a schedule to the loop to allow the user space helper to
> run if a signal is pending instead of just dropping the loop?

Not sure I understand what you mean, but no, we can't return to user-space
to handle the signal. (and just in case, pipe_wait() does schedule()).

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-02 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-22 17:28 [PATCH] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern Neil Horman
2009-06-25 23:30 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26  1:49   ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 10:48   ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:20     ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 17:30       ` Neil Horman
2009-06-28 19:31       ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 20:52         ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-28 21:00           ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 21:18             ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-28 21:50               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 21:35           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 21:48             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 22:06               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-29  9:15                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 21:52             ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 18:00   ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 18:02   ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: recursive dump detection Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:59     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:24       ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 19:14         ` [PATCH 0/2] do_coredump: misc cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 19:14           ` [PATCH 1/2] do_coredump: factor out put_cred() calls Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 22:40             ` Roland McGrath
2009-06-26 20:33               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 19:16           ` [PATCH 2/2] do_coredump: move !ispipe code into "else" branch Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:18             ` Q: do_coredump() && d_unhashed() Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 22:57           ` [PATCH 0/2] do_coredump: misc cleanups Neil Horman
2009-06-26 19:37     ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: recursive dump detection Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 20:17       ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 18:03   ` [PATCH 2/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: wait for core collectors Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:48     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:20       ` Neil Horman
2009-06-29  0:33   ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v3) Neil Horman
2009-06-29  0:35   ` [PATCH 2/2] " Neil Horman
2009-06-28 22:24     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-28 23:24       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29  2:36       ` Neil Horman
2009-06-28 23:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29 10:21           ` Neil Horman
2009-06-30  0:06             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:42   ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:43   ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:46   ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v4) Neil Horman
2009-07-01  5:52     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 10:31       ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 12:25         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 14:12           ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 14:48             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:30   ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:34   ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:37   ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 16:06     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 18:19       ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:28 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:31   ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:32   ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:37   ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-02  8:29     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 10:29       ` Neil Horman
2009-07-02 11:36         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 14:44           ` Neil Horman
2009-07-02 15:37             ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-07-02 17:53               ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:10                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 22:57 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 22:59   ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 23:00   ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 23:01   ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:16     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-03 10:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:50   ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:14     ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:51   ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:15     ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:52   ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:19     ` Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:35       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-07 16:13   ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 15:49   ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 16:27     ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 16:29     ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v9) Neil Horman
2009-08-07 17:08       ` Randy Dunlap
2009-07-20 16:32     ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-29 15:13 ` [PATCH] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern Scott James Remnant
2009-07-29 20:18   ` Neil Horman
2009-07-31 20:20     ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-01 13:41       ` Neil Horman
2009-08-01 18:28         ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-02  0:22           ` Neil Horman
2009-08-02 13:49             ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-02 23:50               ` Neil Horman

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