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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>,
	avi@redhat.com, "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] Convert irq notifiers lists to RCU locking.
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:06:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090714120605.GB28046@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090714120309.GA6671@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 05:03:09AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 08:46:12AM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:31:39PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:40:59PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:32:34PM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > > Yeah I understand that other RCU read section may introduce delays too.
> > > > > The question is how big the delay may be.
> > > > 
> > > > I recall seeing the number "at least 3 jiffies" somewhere, but that
> > > > might have changed since.
> > > 
> > > A grace period lasts a handful of jiffies, depending on kernel
> > > configuration and how long readers remain in a given RCU read-side
> > > critical section.
> > > 
> > > If a handful of jiffies is too long, there are patches that speed up
> > > the grace period, down into the sub-hundred-microsecond range.
> > > 
> > > > > I don't think multiple
> > > > > milliseconds delay in device de-assignment is a big issue though.
> > > > 
> > > > Right. My point was that since the sync is done under kvm lock, the
> > > > guest can easily get blocked trying to get kvm lock meanwhile.
> > > 
> > > I will ask the usual question -- can call_rcu() be used to move
> > > the grace period out from under the lock?  (Often this can be done,
> > > but not always.)
> > > 
> > It can't. Caller frees the data.
> 
> I will then ask the usual next question...  Can the freeing of the
> data be moved from the caller?
> 
Not really. But don't worry. In the case we discuss a small delay is not
a problem.

--
			Gleb.

      reply	other threads:[~2009-07-14 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-12 12:03 [PATCH 0/4] moving irq routing and notifiers to RCU locking Gleb Natapov
2009-07-12 12:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] Move irq routing data structure to rcu locking Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 12:55   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-13 13:03     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 13:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-13 13:23         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 13:36           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-13 13:01   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-07-13 13:15     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 13:16       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-07-13 13:25         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 13:29           ` Gregory Haskins
2009-07-13 15:55       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-07-13 16:24         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 16:27           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-07-13 16:33             ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 16:42               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-07-13 16:44                 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 16:45                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-07-13 16:54                     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-12 12:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] Unregister ack notifier callback on PIT freeing Gleb Natapov
2009-07-12 12:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] Move irq ack notifier list to arch independent code Gleb Natapov
2009-07-12 12:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] Convert irq notifiers lists to RCU locking Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 12:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-13 13:05     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 13:29       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-13 13:48     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-07-13 13:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-13 13:11     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 13:26       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-07-13 13:32         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 13:40           ` Gregory Haskins
2009-07-13 13:52             ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 14:02               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-07-13 14:08                 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 13:40           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-13 13:44             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-07-13 19:31             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-07-14  5:46               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-14 12:03                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-07-14 12:06                   ` Gleb Natapov [this message]

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