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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind@infradead.org>
Cc: Eric Holmberg <Eric_Holmberg@trimble.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Urs Muff <urs_muff@trimble.com>,
	Stefan Roese <sr@denx.de>, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: UBIFS Corrupt during power failure
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:55:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090715205528.GI3056@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1246854654.20721.271.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> So it indeed looks like NOR erasure includes writing zeroes from the
> end. Unfortunately UBI/UBIFS cannot handle this correctly ATM.

For that chip.  I wouldn't like to assume all NOR chips use the same
erase algorithm.

Also, remember that little problem with the 8-byte write buffer?

I guess it's possible that it's pre-erase-to-zero step might write
zeros in 8-byte blocks too, or in some other size depending on how the
hardware works.  And when it erases bytes in parallel, there's no
guarantee about the order you'll see the bits change if it's
interrupted by a power cycle.

So I guess the right thing is to assume nothing, just that the whole
block may have bits flipped from 1 to 0 in an indeterminate order, and
then all bits flipped from 0 to 1 in an indeterminate order.

Or maybe the weaker assumption, that the whole block is indeterminate
during erase.

-- Jamie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-15 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-24 13:45 UBIFS Corrupt during power failure Eric Holmberg
2009-03-24 15:30 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-03-24 17:04   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-24 18:16     ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-25  6:32     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-26  6:59     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-26 14:09       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-30 19:00         ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-31 14:45           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 12:25           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 14:27             ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-10 15:17               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 15:49                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 17:00                   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-10 17:11                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 18:33                       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-14  6:11                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-14 15:09                           ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-14 15:45                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-14 15:53                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-14 18:00                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15  6:00                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-15 15:17                               ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-15 16:09                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15 16:12                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-15 16:32                                   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-15 16:44                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15 18:26                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-15 18:38                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15 19:33                                           ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-15 20:15                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-15 20:46                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-16  5:51                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-16  5:46                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-16 21:34                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-17  8:56                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-17 13:51                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-17 14:36                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-17 23:49                                               ` Eric Holmberg
2009-05-15  7:16                                                 ` Stefan Roese
2009-05-18 17:30                                                   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-05-19  8:18                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-05-19 22:16                                                       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-05-25  8:38                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-05-25 12:54                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-05-25 12:57                                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 13:26                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 13:29                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 13:33                                                             ` Urs Muff
2009-07-03 14:05                                                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 14:47                                                                 ` Urs Muff
2009-07-03 14:58                                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-06  4:30                                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-06  4:51                                                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-06  6:43                                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-07  6:46                                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-07  7:05                                                                             ` Urs Muff
2009-07-13 18:22                                                                             ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-14  5:34                                                                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-15 20:52                                                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-15 21:35                                                                                 ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-16  7:33                                                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24  6:49                                                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24 12:00                                                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24 13:39                                                                                       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-24 14:55                                                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24 14:05                                                                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 14:09                                                                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16  7:09                                                                                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16 16:49                                                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-17  7:07                                                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-15 20:55                                                                       ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-07-15 21:36                                                                         ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-15 22:09                                                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-16  7:22                                                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16  7:16                                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16 20:54                                                                             ` Gilles Casse
2009-07-17  0:29                                                                               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-07-24 14:08                                                                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-16  7:14                                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-03  8:08                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-03  8:25                                                     ` Stefan Roese
2009-06-03 13:50                                                     ` Eric Holmberg
2009-06-07 10:16                                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-28 12:01                                                         ` news
2009-07-28 12:24                                                           ` Adrian Hunter
2009-07-28 17:19                                                           ` Eric Holmberg
2009-08-09  4:59                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-17  8:58                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy

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