From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MRSoA-000853-RS for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:23:42 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRSo9-00084M-BW for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:23:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRSo4-00082x-BX for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:23:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57986 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRSo4-00082t-3S for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:23:36 -0400 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:38556) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MRSo2-0003ib-Ld for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:23:35 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MRRib-0003QQ-LM for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:13:56 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MRSnh-0001mO-Lo for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:23:13 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:23:13 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090716152313.GA6771@thorin> References: <20090714175752.GC10523@thorin> <1247594966.26209.1.camel@mj> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) Subject: Re: please stop this X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:23:41 -0000 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 02:17:39AM +0800, Bean wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Pavel Roskin wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 19:57 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > > >> I agree that we have a problem due to lack of leadership, but this is not > >> acceptable.  Marco is busy right now (traveling), so please put this on hold > >> untill he's back, then we can discuss it. > > > > I agree that we should not rush with such changes.  However, publishing > > patches for discussion and testing is a good thing and should not be > > discouraged. > > Hi, > > Yeah, I don't mean to push it. In fact, I've created a git repository > for my temporary work > > http://repo.or.cz/w/grub2/bean.git Hi, Usually, I only go through the trouble of implementing things when it's clear they will be merged in some form. But I understand it's not the same for everyone. So if I missunderstood, please accept my apology. In any case, this kind of changes need wider consensus, and including the maintainers in it. And in general, I think we should hold off from big restructuring at this time. Using branches is a good idea IMHO (be it "someone's branch" or "pupa2" or whatever). -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."