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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Chris Snook <chris.snook@gmail.com>
Cc: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@tglx.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	nikolag@ca.ibm.com, Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Introduce CLOCK_REALTIME_COARSE
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:14:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090718231429.7ddea95f@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13a12eea0907182000v654e38a5l265ae5bdadb1a175@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:00:55 -0400
Chris Snook <chris.snook@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:39 PM, john stultz<johnstul@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> > -       if (likely(gtod->sysctl_enabled && gtod->clock.vread))
> > +       if (likely(gtod->sysctl_enabled))
> 
> This irks me.  If the sysctl is enabled and the codepath is getting
> used often enough that we care about performance, branch prediction
> should do the right thing without compiler hints.  On the other hand,
> if the sysctl is disabled, and the compiler is telling the cpu to
> ignore its branch predictor, it'll hurt.  I don't think we should be
> wrapping (un)likely annotations around configuration options, unless
> we're biasing against debug conditions where we definitely don't care
> about performance.  The patch is certainly no worse than the existing
> code, but while we have the hood up, it might be nice to remove the
> annotation, unless we're sure that it does no harm, and does some
> good.

it's on x86.. likely/unlikely don't impact the CPU (since there are no
"ignore the branch predictor" hints), only the code placement.....

(and that's probably a good thing; CPU branch predictors are pretty
good, I'd not be surprised if they're at least as good as the
programmers who think how they code is used)


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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-19  6:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-17 23:39 [RFC][PATCH] Introduce CLOCK_REALTIME_COARSE john stultz
2009-07-18  8:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-07-18 22:09   ` john stultz
2009-07-18 22:30     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-07-20 11:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-20 12:22         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-07-20 13:33         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-07-20 13:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-22 21:39             ` Josh Triplett
2009-07-21 22:31       ` john stultz
2009-07-22  1:26         ` john stultz
2009-08-01 12:21         ` Andy Lutomirski
2009-07-18 12:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-18 22:20   ` john stultz
2009-07-19  3:00 ` Chris Snook
2009-07-19  6:14   ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2009-07-19  6:48     ` Nicholas Miell

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