From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MTfDa-0007Xb-GK for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:03:02 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTfDY-0007Vm-O6 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:03:00 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTfDT-0007Oy-VP for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:03:00 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59602 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTfDT-0007OY-PZ for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:02:55 -0400 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:58866) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MTfDT-00076Q-0z for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:02:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MTe7g-00070T-Om for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:52:53 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MTfDQ-0002HD-Hc for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:02:52 +0200 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:02:52 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090722170252.GB8706@thorin> References: <20090716203709.cps5jkp0oo0wws8w-cebfxv@webmail.spamcop.net> <1247842149.25608.44.camel@mj> <20090718175558.GA8867@thorin> <1247957689.3416.74.camel@mj> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1247957689.3416.74.camel@mj> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) Subject: Re: [PATCH] enable buildable targets by default X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:03:01 -0000 On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 06:54:49PM -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote: > On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 23:38 +0200, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > > > > I fully agree. The idea with my proposal (we talked this on IRC, I think) > > > was to simplify things, so I proposed that we enable everything so we don't > > > have to provide flags, etc. > > The main pro was to avoid frequent breakage as we experienced with grub-emu. > > I just use a script to build grub for all supported platforms with all > supported options. It's quite good for finding such errors. As it > stands now, there are no errors and no warnings. But it took a while to > fix everything. > > I think we should eventually revert to not building debug tools by > default. Your script can detect regressions once they're committed, but enabling them by default helps prevents them from being committed in first place. I think it's an advantage. > > > I prefer if we got rid of the flags, or at least most of them (lumping them > > > together with a flag to disable debug tools or so), > > I agree. grub-emu, grub-fstest and efiemu are debug tools. Neither is > needed for normal operation on any platform. I think efiemu is needed for some loaders. It's not a debug tool AFAIK. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."