From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MXG6S-0001hW-Sm for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:02:32 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MXG6Q-0001fL-Uq for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:02:30 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MXG6M-0001eP-97 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:02:30 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53821 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MXG6M-0001eM-48 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:02:26 -0400 Received: from xvm-190-8.ghst.net ([217.70.190.8]:42619 helo=aybabtu.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MXG6L-0006fC-Iv for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:02:25 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MXG6K-0001Fz-4J for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:02:24 +0000 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MXG6J-00063d-HN for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:02:23 +0200 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:02:23 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090801150223.GC23133@thorin> References: <1248392495.2661.208.camel@mj> <20090728175052.GD32726@thorin> <20090731160039.GE14675@thorin> <20090801144101.GA23133@thorin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Fwd: [PATCH 1/2] Framebuffer split X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:02:31 -0000 On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:50:59PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: > 2009/8/1 Robert Millan : > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:31:07PM +0200, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > >> > Well, that fits the definition of backend. > >> > > >> But there are other backends too - network backend, opengl backend, ... > >> Framebuffer is a term often used to designated memory ranged which is > >> mapped to the screen. > > > > Ok then.  I think I got confused by the common usage of this term, which > > often refers to the whole thing.  I'm fine with it, as long as it's used > > consistently. > > Yes, I can agree with "framebuffer" being used for the memory storing > the display data, X has fb library, many other graphics libraries have > bf handling routines but the most well known one is the Linux > "framebuffer console" - the console using the Linux framebuffer > library. > > > > >> May we stop discussing about names and rather either commit or discuss > >> technical details? > > > > Names are very important.  When someone who's not familiar with the code > > is trying to figure it out, if the name of a function or an interface > > inmediately evokes an idea of what it does, that person won't have to > > check.  It makes working with GRUB much more efficient. > > > > For me backend is just something generic that can do just about > anything (even compilers have a backend) but framebuffer evokes the > thought of rectangular memory area storing the picture shown on the > screen. I stand corrected. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."