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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Benjamin Blum <bblum@google.com>
Cc: menage@google.com, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] Makes procs file writable to move all threads by tgid at once
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:45:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090803194555.GA10158@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090803185556.GA8469@us.ibm.com>

Quoting Serge E. Hallyn (serue@us.ibm.com):
> Quoting Benjamin Blum (bblum@google.com):
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Serge E. Hallyn<serue@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > Quoting Ben Blum (bblum@google.com):
> > > What *exactly* is it we are protecting with cgroup_fork_mutex?
> > > 'fork' (as the name implies) is not a good answer, since we should be
> > > protecting data, not code.  If it is solely tsk->cgroups, then perhaps
> > > we should in fact try switching to (s?)rcu.  Then cgroup_fork() could
> > > just do rcu_read_lock, while cgroup_task_migrate() would make the change
> > > under a spinlock (to protect against concurrent cgroup_task_migrate()s),
> > > and using rcu_assign_pointer to let cgroup_fork() see consistent data
> > > either before or after the update...  That might mean that any checks done
> > > before completing the migrate which involve the # of tasks might become
> > > invalidated before the migration completes?  Seems acceptable (since
> > > it'll be a small overcharge at most and can be quickly remedied).
> > 
> > You'll notice where the rwsem is released - not until cgroup_post_fork
> > or cgroup_fork_failed. It doesn't just protect the tsk->cgroups
> > pointer, but rather guarantees atomicity between adjusting
> > tsk->cgroups and attaching it to the cgroups lists with respect to the
> > critical section in attach_proc. If you've a better name for the lock
> > for such a race condition, do suggest.
> 
> No the name is pretty accurate - it's the lock itself I'm objecting
> to.  Maybe it's the best we can do, though.

This is probably a stupid idea, but...  what about having zero
overhead at clone(), and instead, at cgroup_task_migrate(),
dequeue_task()ing all of the affected threads for the duration of
the migrate?

/me prepares to be hit by blunt objects

-serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-03 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-31  1:51 [PATCH v2 0/6] CGroups: cgroup memberlist enhancement+fix Ben Blum
     [not found] ` <20090731012908.27908.62208.stgit-/yCBOHwbXCxd3OlUiQof+WCaruZE5nAUZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-31  1:51   ` [PATCH 1/6] Adds a read-only "procs" file similar to "tasks" that shows only unique tgids Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51   ` [PATCH 2/6] Ensures correct concurrent opening/reading of pidlists across pid namespaces Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51   ` [PATCH 3/6] Quick vmalloc vs kmalloc fix to the case where array size is too large Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51     ` Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51   ` [PATCH 4/6] Changes css_set freeing mechanism to be under RCU Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51   ` [PATCH 5/6] Lets ss->can_attach and ss->attach do whole threadgroups at a time Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51   ` [PATCH 6/6] Makes procs file writable to move all threads by tgid at once Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 1/6] Adds a read-only "procs" file similar to "tasks" that shows only unique tgids Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 2/6] Ensures correct concurrent opening/reading of pidlists across pid namespaces Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 4/6] Changes css_set freeing mechanism to be under RCU Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 5/6] Lets ss->can_attach and ss->attach do whole threadgroups at a time Ben Blum
2009-08-03  2:22   ` Li Zefan
     [not found]     ` <4A7649E1.4000200-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04  0:35       ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04  0:35     ` Benjamin Blum
     [not found]   ` <20090731015149.27908.25403.stgit-/yCBOHwbXCxd3OlUiQof+WCaruZE5nAUZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-03  2:22     ` Li Zefan
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 6/6] Makes procs file writable to move all threads by tgid at once Ben Blum
2009-08-03  3:00   ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  0:56     ` Benjamin Blum
     [not found]       ` <2f86c2480908031756j557e7aebmbf7951da6a1aadb0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04  1:05         ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04  1:09         ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  1:09           ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  1:19           ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04  1:45             ` Li Zefan
     [not found]               ` <4A7792C4.5010504-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04  1:55                 ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04  1:55               ` Paul Menage
     [not found]             ` <2f86c2480908031819h2513cdb4tac3d6def3e0aa320-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04  1:45               ` Li Zefan
     [not found]           ` <4A778A49.6040302-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04  1:19             ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04  1:05       ` Paul Menage
     [not found]         ` <6599ad830908031805y31136eceqeff0bab455100d6c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04  1:11           ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04  1:11         ` Benjamin Blum
     [not found]     ` <4A7652E7.4020206-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04  0:56       ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-03 17:54   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-03 18:07     ` Paul Menage
     [not found]     ` <20090803175452.GA5481-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-03 18:07       ` Paul Menage
2009-08-03 18:13       ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-03 18:13     ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-03 18:55       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20090803185556.GA8469-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-03 19:45           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-03 19:45         ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2009-08-03 19:55           ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04 14:01             ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <6599ad830908031255j68ce047x7165bfefa62ed53c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 14:01               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-04 21:40               ` Matt Helsley
2009-08-04 21:40             ` Matt Helsley
2009-08-04 21:40             ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]           ` <20090803194555.GA10158-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-03 19:55             ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04 18:48             ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04 18:48               ` Paul Menage
     [not found]               ` <6599ad830908041148h6d3f3e9bxfef9f3eedec0ab6d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 19:01                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-04 19:01                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-04 19:14                 ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04 19:14                   ` Benjamin Blum
     [not found]                   ` <2f86c2480908041214r1f23c1b7q9a25b04e26c92a1a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 19:28                     ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04 19:28                       ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                       ` <6599ad830908041228w67bc6f7fh57e28f244e1923b3-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-05 10:20                         ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-05 10:20                       ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                         ` <20090805102057.GT29252-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-05 16:11                           ` Paul Menage
2009-08-05 16:11                             ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                             ` <6599ad830908050911t6f23f810i65fe8fe17f3ee698-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-05 16:42                               ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-05 16:42                             ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                               ` <20090805164218.GB26446-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-05 16:53                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06  0:01                                 ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-05 16:53                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06  0:01                               ` Benjamin Blum
     [not found]                                 ` <2f86c2480908051701s57120404q475edbedb58cdca1-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06  9:58                                   ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06  9:58                                 ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06 10:04                                   ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                                   ` <20090806095854.GD26446-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 10:04                                     ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06 10:28                                     ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 10:28                                       ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                                       ` <6599ad830908060328y21a008c1pc5ed5c27e0ec905d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 10:34                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 10:34                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 10:42                                           ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                                             ` <6599ad830908060342m1fc8cdd2me25af248a8e0e183-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 11:02                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 11:02                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 11:24                                               ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 11:24                                                 ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                                                 ` <6599ad830908060424r72e1aa12g2b246785e7bc039c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 11:39                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 11:39                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 15:19                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-08-06 15:19                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                                                     ` <20090806151922.GB6747-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 15:24                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 15:24                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 15:37                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-08-06 15:37                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-08-06 10:42                                           ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 11:24                                         ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06 11:24                                           ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06 11:40                                           ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 14:54                                             ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                                             ` <6599ad830908060440g2f6cbed6xdc54c7096cd3745e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 14:54                                               ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-08  1:41                                               ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-08  1:41                                             ` Benjamin Blum
     [not found]                                               ` <2f86c2480908071841h13009856hd8fcae167b1fadbf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-08  1:51                                                 ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-08  1:51                                               ` Benjamin Blum
     [not found]                                           ` <20090806112450.GF26446-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 11:40                                             ` Paul Menage
     [not found]       ` <2f86c2480908031113y525b6cbdhe418b8a0364c7760-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-03 18:55         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]   ` <20090731015154.27908.9639.stgit-/yCBOHwbXCxd3OlUiQof+WCaruZE5nAUZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-03  3:00     ` Li Zefan
2009-08-03 17:54     ` Serge E. Hallyn

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