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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Erik Mouw <mouw@nl.linux.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:08:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090806120826.GC27773@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090806113104.GK31370@elf.ucw.cz>

On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 01:31:04PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > Please fix your mailinglist.
> > > > 
> > > > You claimed that it is possible to crosspost between lkml and lakml,
> > > > yet the lakml does everything to prevent that -- even in case as
> > > > simple as reporting that regression that affects arm.
> > > > 
> > > > Please fix it.
> > 
> > It is indeed possible to cross post between lkml and lakml. The easiest
> > way to do that is to subscribe to the list and tell Mailman that you
> > don't want to receive any messages.
> 
> Actually I'm subscribed, but I still have far too many problems.
> 
> Due to the approval process, I don't think you'll ever have a spammer
> on lakml... can the mail size + #of people in to/cc list simply be
> increased to lkml levels?

The mail size is currently 100K, having been recently increased.  I
believe this is a sane limit.

The number of people is 15, which is probably a little low.  I've
already explained my personal position over that limit concerning
requests from you.  Erik's position may be different.

> > When I get such a Mailman message from a list I just shrug. The
> > moderator will take care eventually and if he rejects it I don't care.
> > Suggest you try to do the same, there are may more important things
> > than a message that doesn't get it to a list.
> 
> Well, I'd say that mailing list is pretty vital for Linux-style 
> development, and those rejects are simply far too frequent.

This is the first time in at least one month that anything from you has
been held according to the logs.  If I look at my mailbox which has
3400+ messages from the list since 1st June, you have sent 78 messages,
only one of which was held.

I think you need to develop a realistic sense of proportion.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-06 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3653.1249217530.31043.linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk>
2009-08-04 10:00 ` linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Pavel Machek
2009-08-04 22:28   ` Russell King
2009-08-06 10:07     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 10:44       ` Russell King
2009-08-06 11:02         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 11:55           ` Russell King
2009-08-14 11:06             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 12:04           ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-14 11:07             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-04 22:39   ` Russell King
2009-08-06 10:57     ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-06 11:31       ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 12:08         ` Russell King [this message]
2009-08-06 12:29           ` David John
2009-08-06 12:40             ` Russell King
2009-08-06 13:02               ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 13:33                 ` Russell King
2009-08-06 13:52                   ` David John
2009-08-06 14:23                   ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Joe Perches
2009-08-06 15:03                     ` Ben Dooks
2009-08-06 15:14                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 15:23                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-06 16:18                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 16:40                         ` Russell King
2009-08-06 16:53                           ` Joe Perches
2009-08-08 10:55                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 23:49                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-11 10:33                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-08-12 11:55                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 19:48                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 20:17                             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-12 21:25                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 22:00                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 22:43                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 22:04                                 ` David Miller
2009-08-13  1:18                                 ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13  7:38                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  8:59                                     ` Joe Perches
2009-08-14  0:58                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-14  5:15                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-13  9:35                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13  9:47                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  9:54                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13  9:58                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 10:12                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13 10:02                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-13 10:16                                     ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13 10:35                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 11:01                                         ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Change ARM "subscriber-only" lists to "moderated for non-subscribers" Joe Perches
2009-08-13 13:18                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 11:08                                         ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Joe Perches
2009-08-13 11:54                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 12:16                                             ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13 13:17                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 13:33                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-13 21:07                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14  7:59                                             ` Daniel Mack
2009-08-14  9:18                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-14 10:01                                                 ` Daniel Silverstone
2009-08-14 16:39                                                   ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARMsections H Hartley Sweeten
2009-08-14 10:01                                                 ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Catalin Marinas
2009-08-14 15:47                                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2009-08-14 11:25                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 11:18                                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 11:16                                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 19:37                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-14 20:43                                         ` Joe Perches
2009-08-12 22:01                             ` David Miller
2009-08-12 23:04                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-12 23:22                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  0:48                                 ` Marek Vasut
2009-08-08 10:45                   ` linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Pavel Machek
2009-08-08 10:42                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 13:17               ` David John
2009-08-06 12:15         ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-08 10:40           ` Pavel Machek

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