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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
Cc: alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] AlacrityVM guest drivers Reply-To:
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:24:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090806122449.GC11038@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A7A8F7B0200005A00051B84@sinclair.provo.novell.com>

On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 06:08:27AM -0600, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> >>> On 8/6/2009 at  4:19 AM, in message <20090806081955.GA9752@redhat.com>,
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote: 
> > On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:17:30PM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> >> (Applies to v2.6.31-rc5, proposed for linux-next after review is complete)
> > 
> > These are guest drivers, right?
> 
> Yep.
> 
> > Merging the guest first means relying on
> > kernel interface from an out of tree driver, which well might change
> > before it goes in.
> 
> ABI compatibility is already addressed/handled, so even if that is true its not a problem.

It is? With versioning? Presumably this:

+       params.devid   = vdev->id;
+       params.version = version;
+
+       ret = vbus_pci_hypercall(VBUS_PCI_HC_DEVOPEN,
+                                &params, sizeof(params));
+       if (ret < 0)
+               return ret;

Even assuming host even knows how to decode this structure (e.g.  some
other host module doesn't use VBUS_PCI_HC_DEVOPEN), checks the version
and denies older guests, this might help guest not to crash, but guest
still won't work.

> > Would it make more sense to start merging with the host side of the project?
> 
> Not necessarily, no.  These are drivers for a "device", so its no
> different than merging any other driver really.  This is especially
> true since the hypervisor is also already published and freely
> available today, so anyone can start using it.

The difference is clear to me: devices do not get to set kernel/userspace
interfaces. This "device" depends on a specific interface between
kernel and (guest) userspace.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-06 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-03 17:17 [PATCH 0/7] AlacrityVM guest drivers Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 17:17 ` [PATCH 1/7] shm-signal: shared-memory signals Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 13:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-06 15:11     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 20:51       ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-03 17:17 ` [PATCH 2/7] ioq: Add basic definitions for a shared-memory, lockless queue Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 17:17 ` [PATCH 3/7] vbus: add a "vbus-proxy" bus model for vbus_driver objects Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 17:17 ` [PATCH 4/7] vbus-proxy: add a pci-to-vbus bridge Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 14:42   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-06 15:59     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 17:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-06 21:04         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 22:57           ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-07  4:42             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-07 14:57               ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-07 15:44                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-07 15:44                   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-07 15:55               ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-07 18:25                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 17:17 ` [PATCH 5/7] ioq: add driver-side vbus helpers Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 17:18 ` [PATCH 6/7] net: Add vbus_enet driver Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 18:30   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-03 20:10     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 20:19       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-03 20:24         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 20:29           ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-04  1:14   ` [PATCH v2] " Gregory Haskins
2009-08-04  2:38     ` David Miller
2009-08-04 13:57       ` [Alacrityvm-devel] " Gregory Haskins
2009-10-02 15:33     ` [PATCH v3] " Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 17:18 ` [PATCH 7/7] venet: add scatter-gather/GSO support Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 18:32   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-03 19:30     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-03 18:33   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-03 19:57     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06  8:19 ` [PATCH 0/7] AlacrityVM guest drivers Reply-To: Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-06 10:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-06 12:09     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 12:08   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 12:24     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-08-06 13:00       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 12:54     ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 13:03       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 13:44         ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 13:45           ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 13:57             ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 14:06               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 15:40                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-06 15:45                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-06 16:28                     ` Pantelis Koukousoulas
2009-08-07 12:14                       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 15:50                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 16:55                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-09  7:48                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 16:29                   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-06 23:23                     ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-06 13:59             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-06 14:07               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-07 14:19   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-07 15:05     ` [PATCH 0/7] AlacrityVM guest drivers Gregory Haskins
2009-08-07 15:46       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-07 18:04         ` Gregory Haskins

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