From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MaT9q-0001mZ-3h for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:35:18 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaT9p-0001mH-C2 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:35:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaT9k-0001kk-7W for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:35:16 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39396 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaT9k-0001kh-1f for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:35:12 -0400 Received: from xvm-190-8.ghst.net ([217.70.190.8]:44355 helo=aybabtu.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MaT9j-0005Fv-JS for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:35:11 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaT9h-000154-Jf for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:35:09 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaT9g-0002Xp-NV for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:35:08 +0200 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:35:08 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090810113508.GD9344@thorin> References: <20090807134614.GA8719@thorin> <20090807203948.GA16350@thorin> <1249706967.28996.2.camel@mj> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1249706967.28996.2.camel@mj> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Solving the grub-pe2elf problem X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:35:17 -0000 On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 12:49:27AM -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 22:39 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > > I don't understand this. Why is a requirement to install GNU binutils > > unreasonable, whereas a requirement to install objconv is not? > > Installing binutils can break the existing toolchain. Installing > objconv should not. > > It's a good idea, as it would unify Apple and Cygwin support to some > degree. I would prefer if we didn't feed the NIH syndrome in those two platforms (the rest of the world has settled on ELF, and it is still difficult for users of those two OSes to produce that format). That said, switching to objconv is an improvement. I have nothing against it. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."