From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MaXw5-0006lz-Fh for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:41:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaXw4-0006lu-Gg for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:41:24 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaXw0-0006jS-3n for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:41:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43997 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaXvz-0006jP-Sz for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:41:19 -0400 Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.3.141]:46730) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MaXvz-0007yR-CX for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:41:19 -0400 Received: from [82.69.40.219] (helo=riva.pelham.vpn.ucam.org) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MaXw0-0005zv-B0 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:41:20 +0000 Received: from cjwatson by riva.pelham.vpn.ucam.org with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) for grub-devel@gnu.org id 1MaXvy-0004lg-00; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:41:18 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:41:18 +0100 From: Colin Watson To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090810164117.GC11691@riva.ucam.org> References: <20090810110102.GP11691@riva.ucam.org> <20090810114940.GI9344@thorin> <20090810115835.GU11691@riva.ucam.org> <20090810151541.GB11134@thorin> <20090810154933.GA11691@riva.ucam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.69.40.219] X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: [PATCH] Improve handling of "keep" in gfxpayload X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:41:24 -0000 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 06:27:04PM +0200, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > Framebuffer console works just fine with no KMS if video mode is > already set and video parameters passed. At least technically. Feel free to show me what I'm doing wrong, but it demonstrably does not work right now and right here, and Matthew Garrett (whose opinion I value very highly when it comes to kernelspace) says that the code necessary to make this work does not exist in Linux right now. > Just that you won't be able to do fancy stuff like acceleration before > you load complete drivers. An example of OS which boots in such mode > is OSX - it continues in the mode set by booter and uses the video for > showing either scroll wheel or text. That means it's theoretically possible, certainly, but that wasn't my point - the fact is that it doesn't work with Linux today, and whether OS X can do it is not really directly relevant to that. Regards, -- Colin Watson [cjwatson@ubuntu.com]