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From: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>,
	gregkh@suse.de, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>,
	Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:48:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908110648.26191.a1426z@gawab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090810154029.GC7652@kroah.com>

Greg KH wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 09:55:24PM +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
> > Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 12:14:39PM +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
> > > > Greg KH wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 12:17:31AM +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
> > > > > > For devtmpfs to be a realistic replacement for static /dev, it
> > > > > > has to be comparable to static /dev in both speed and size.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since when is this requirement necessary?  You want something for
> > > > > free in both speed and size?  Well, you got it in speed, but not
> > > > > size, it will take up memory that is swapable, and a tiny ammount
> > > > > of non-swapable kernel memory for the code.
> > > >
> > > > Not so tiny when you count in the hotplug dependency.
> > >
> > > devtmpfs does not rely on hotplug at all.
> >
> > Are you sure?
> >
> > This is from the patch of this thread:
> > > +config DEVTMPFS
> > > +       bool "Create a kernel maintained /dev tmpfs (EXPERIMENTAL)"
> > > +       depends on HOTPLUG && SHMEM && TMPFS
>
> Ah, you're right.
>
> Ok then, since you don't run CONFIG_HOTPLUG kernels, why are you worried
> about this code at all?
>
> confused,

Linux used to be lean and mean which made it fun to work with, and which made 
the switch from the competition easy.  Nowadays I see a lot of bloat going 
into the kernel which may indicate that Linux is starting to run out of 
steam.  devtmpfs seems bloaty due to the hotplug dependency.


Thanks!

--
Al


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-11 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-05 17:15 [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev Greg KH
2009-08-05 17:43 ` David Vrabel
2009-08-05 17:55   ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:20 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 18:28   ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:51     ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 15:46       ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 16:20         ` David Dillow
2009-08-06 17:10           ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 18:31           ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:47             ` Phil Turmel
2009-08-08 23:07             ` David Dillow
2009-08-10 15:39               ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 14:36                 ` David Dillow
2009-08-11 14:55                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12  0:04                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-08-12  0:25                     ` David Dillow
2009-08-12  0:34                       ` Greg KH
2009-08-12  4:31                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 12:56                         ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 13:44                           ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:09                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 15:25                               ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:39                             ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 15:26                               ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 15:57                                 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12  7:31                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12 12:50                         ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 14:07                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 14:14                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-10  9:04           ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-06 17:06         ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:15           ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 17:27             ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:31               ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 18:36           ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 20:18             ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 20:49               ` Greg KH
2009-08-07  4:03                 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07  4:25                   ` Greg KH
2009-08-07  5:04                     ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07  5:20                       ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 12:49                         ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 15:13                           ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:51                         ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-07 16:06                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07 21:17                           ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 22:24                             ` Greg KH
2009-08-08  9:14                               ` Al Boldi
2009-08-08 17:11                                 ` Greg KH
2009-08-08 18:55                                   ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 15:40                                     ` Greg KH
2009-08-11  3:48                                       ` Al Boldi [this message]
2009-08-11  4:04                                         ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 15:18                                           ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11 15:49                                             ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 16:04                                               ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-11 16:51                                                 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12  4:25                                                   ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10  9:01               ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10 12:05                 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 12:39                   ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10  9:22               ` Harald Hoyer
2009-08-08 22:19     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-05 20:55 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-08-06  0:06   ` Greg KH
2009-08-06  0:19     ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07  0:27       ` Greg KH
2009-08-09 12:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 16:36   ` Greg KH
2009-08-10 15:54     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12  1:20       ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-12 21:33 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-12 22:08   ` Greg KH
2009-08-13  8:25   ` Xavier Bestel
2009-08-13  8:55     ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-13  2:18 ` Ming Lei
2009-08-13  2:53   ` Greg KH

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