From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mb1wU-0007E7-Hf for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:43:50 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mb1wS-0007Do-Vl for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:43:49 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mb1wO-0007CJ-DU for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:43:48 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38566 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mb1wO-0007CG-AX for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:43:44 -0400 Received: from xvm-190-8.ghst.net ([217.70.190.8]:50752 helo=aybabtu.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mb1wN-0006lR-RE for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:43:44 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mb1wJ-0000NT-6c for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:43:41 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mb1wE-0002Hg-IF for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:43:34 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:43:34 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090812004334.GD8561@thorin> References: <20090810161040.GA16306@thorin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: RFC: 1.97 roadmap X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:43:49 -0000 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 07:10:12PM +0200, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Robert Millan wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I think it's time we begin the discussion on GRUB 1.97.  What do we want to > > see in it, and a rough schedule.  1.97 is meant to be a point release, without > > any major changes (I mean, except for those we already have ;-)), and it should > > happen soon (like this month or so). > I think it would be good if we release before ubuntu's beta freeze. Agreed. > >  - Low memory heap (useful to move code off kern/i386/pc/startup.S). > Originally I thought of a path relocator32->relocator users->mm > relocator32 is ready for next round of review but is untested. Now I > think about it mm patch isn't actually dependent on relocator32, just > you won't get some features (as loading big initrds and removal of > os_area_size/os_area_addr fields) before relocator32 is used by all > loaders. I will adjust mm patch to this and add > .(text|data|bss)-lowmem section support. I don't understand, what is the relation between relocator in loaders and low memory heap? I'll need to catch up with the lowmem heap discussion. What's the approach? > What about savedefault? Which savedefault way you prefer? I think it would be good to have. But I haven't followed on the savedefault discussion, I just know it would build upon the existing envfile support. > > Bigger overhauls like the fancy menu > I started splitting Collin's patches and actually only quite few need > to go to the parts already present in grub2. Perhaps 1.97 can be > brought to a state when gfxmenu can be compiled externally? Depends on how intrusive are those changes :-) -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."