From: Peter Jakobi <jakobi@acm.org>
To: Eric Blake <ebb9@byu.net>
Cc: Peter Jakobi <jakobi@acm.org>, dash@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Feature request: set -o pipefail
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:35:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090813143522.GB21918@anuurn.compact> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A82BAC9.9040808@byu.net>
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:51:21AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote:
Rehi Eric & *,
[please Cc if you want me to read it :). thx, Peter]
> According to Peter Jakobi on 8/7/2009 7:18 AM:
> > implement set -o pipefail. This will allow the user to request the
> > return code to be the one of the first pipe command with a non-zero
> > error.
>
> That just seems like bloat to me. Not to mention that it can lead to
> surprising results due to SIGPIPE (that is, there are cases where 'command
> | head' should be considered successful, even though command exited from
> SIGPIPE, where using bash's 'set -o pipefail' will make it look like a
> failure).
Please don't assume that I want pipefail to be always on:
There won't be any surprises at all if it is a 'set -o' option and off
by default.
Wrt bloat, I sincerely hope that my request won't double the code
size. I've even gladly skip on implementing the return code status
array :). I wouldn't have made the suggestion if I'd assume it to be
bloat or introduce tons of extra code...
As for sigpipe, of course, it SHOULD occur. And if pipefail is on, it
should be reported even from non-tail stages of the pipe.
And it's easy enough to ignore, it you know that your list might
contain processes that may legally create ignorable SIGPIPE:
(cat LARGEFILE | head -1;true) | cat
cat LARGEFILE | ( perl -0pe : | head -1) | cat
will do quite nicely. Even dd will do in a pinch:
# gnu dd *bs options are slightly counter-intuitive:
# both bs and one of ibs/obs required)
cat LARGEFILE | ( dd bs=500M obs=1 | head -1) | cat
> > The lack of which can be quite painful in scripting, even if a
> > bourne-shell/posix subset would otherwise be quite sufficient.
>
> system "exec 3>&1; s=$(exec 4>&1 >&3; { mv -i foo bar </dev/tty 2>&1; echo
> $? >&4; } | tee -a LOG) && exit $s"
Yes. Oleg pointed me to the even more complete sample of pipestatus,
which made for an interesting read (thanx Oleg!).
But that's exactly why I wrote _painful_ (and even pipestatus isn't a
general workaround).
Consider larger system-level scripts, init.d-scripts, daemons or
scripts e.g. in perl using system().
Given that Debian/Ubuntu wants to use dash for /bin/sh, this issue
gains some importance, unless you want me and anyone at larger shops
to replace /bin/sh being dash again with the previously used bash.
Which would be a shame, given the push the dash project gained by
Debian's recent move.
--
cu
Peter
jakobi@acm.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-13 14:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-07 13:18 Feature request: set -o pipefail Peter Jakobi
2009-08-12 12:51 ` Eric Blake
2009-08-13 14:35 ` Peter Jakobi [this message]
2009-08-13 23:15 ` Oleg Verych
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