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From: Marek Lindner <lindner_marek@yahoo.de>
To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking
	<b.a.t.m.a.n@lists.open-mesh.net>
Subject: Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman goes looping...
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:56:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908131756.57929.lindner_marek@yahoo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF516B4B6E.095CCBDE-ONC1257610.004CDE20-C1257610.00500B80@CHASCOM.INT>

On Wednesday 12 August 2009 22:34:17 Yang Su wrote:
> Given the DV nature of Batman, current strict dropping policy seems to make
> sense, because sending known OGMs (as suggested) does introduce significant
> overhead but does not propagate so much new information.
>
> In addition, loosing the dropping policy may introduce new problems which
> might not be easily predictable at this moment, e.g., stability, looping
> (propagating stale information within the network might cause even more
> nasty looping problems).

I agree that this might introduce new problems which is the reason for posting 
it here. I definitely see the overhead created by that methog. Every better 
idea will be accepted immediately.  :-)


> Another way (and maybe simpler ) to fix the problem: instead of loosing the
> OGM dropping policy,  loosing the echo cancellation policy.
>
> It is a very simple fix: in addition to the usual echo cancellation
> process, I also check  the TQ value contained in the echoed OGM.  This TQ
> is announced by the neighbor that broadcasts this echo. If this TQ is worse
> than my current TQ estimation towards that neighbor, I update the
> estimation with this TQ.

In your testbed it fixed the issue ?
Looking at the example you gave I would expect that the problem is only solved 
partially. You argued the OGMs from E via A would always arrive faster at B 
compared to the longer path. Using your method would probably avoid the loop 
between A and B in the event of a packet loss on the longer path but it would 
not let route A via the longer path. Am I mistaken ?

Regards,
Marek

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-13  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-22 10:56 [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman goes looping Andrew Lunn
2009-07-27 16:20 ` Marek Lindner
2009-07-30 14:32   ` Yang Su
2009-08-03 10:21     ` Marek Lindner
2009-08-04 15:59       ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Routing help? nick farrow
2009-08-06  8:44       ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman goes looping Yang Su
2009-08-06 14:15         ` Marek Lindner
2009-08-07 15:13           ` Yang Su
2009-08-07 15:58             ` Marek Lindner
2009-08-10  7:20               ` Yang Su
2009-08-10  7:48                 ` Marek Lindner
2009-08-10  7:57                   ` Yang Su
2009-08-10  8:16                     ` Marek Lindner
2009-08-11 16:42                       ` Marek Lindner
2009-08-12 14:34                         ` Yang Su
2009-08-13  9:56                           ` Marek Lindner [this message]
2009-08-13 15:07                             ` Yang Su
2009-08-13 16:00                               ` Marek Lindner

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