From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MbhA4-0006VJ-QC for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:44:36 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MbhA3-0006UM-El for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:44:35 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MbhA0-0006Se-1u for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:44:35 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38348 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mbh9z-0006SX-Nm for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:44:31 -0400 Received: from xvm-190-8.ghst.net ([217.70.190.8]:40710 helo=aybabtu.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mbh9z-0007uf-8F for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:44:31 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mbh9x-0000W9-MQ for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:44:30 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mbh9t-0005zJ-Vb for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:44:25 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:44:25 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090813204425.GJ22130@thorin> References: <20090812152508.GZ11691@riva.ucam.org> <1250146469.2352.46.camel@ct> <20090813082214.GF11691@riva.ucam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090813082214.GF11691@riva.ucam.org> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: grub.cfg and core.img getting out of sync X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:44:35 -0000 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:22:14AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > > > > What do people think about this general approach? > > > > There is already a version hardcoded into the uncompressed part of > > core.img. See kern/i386/pc/startup.S. Unfortunately, there is no > > policy when the version should be updated. > > > > But I'm fine with a separate file in /boot/grub if we decide that the > > existing version in core.img cannot be used for that and we cannot keep > > grub.cfg backward compatible. > > The version in core.img would be fine if there were a way to extract it > from userspace. It seems rather ugly to me to extract this using dd or > od directly - also, presumably grub-mkconfig ought to be at least > somewhat architecture-independent. Does this need a new tool? This seems overengineered. I'd rather integrate grub-install with grub-mkconfig to ensure they're always run together, than have to deal with a version number that has to be constantly upgraded. Maintaining an ABI version number is a significant burden in the long run. We should think carefully before committing to it. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."