From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756275AbZHNLbp (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:31:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755719AbZHNLbj (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:31:39 -0400 Received: from flounder.pepperfish.net ([87.237.62.181]:58716 "EHLO flounder.pepperfish.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754065AbZHNLbi (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:31:38 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 5371 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:31:37 EDT Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:01:00 +0100 From: Daniel Silverstone To: Russell King - ARM Linux Cc: Daniel Mack , Joe Perches , Alan Cox , Pekka Enberg , Pavel Machek , Ben Dooks , linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, David John , Erik Mouw , kernel list , Andrew Morton , David Miller , Krzysztof Halasa Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Message-ID: <20090814100100.GA25584@digital-scurf.org> References: <84144f020908121317g64551a2cu1b960f44ed5d0d9@mail.gmail.com> <20090812212502.GA24667@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <20090813103511.2928a085@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090813094736.GZ6132@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <1250158593.28285.23.camel@Joe-Laptop.home> <20090813103513.GC6132@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <1250161714.28285.61.camel@Joe-Laptop.home> <20090813115444.GB10450@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <20090814075919.GG19257@buzzloop.caiaq.de> <20090814091808.GA2662@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090814091808.GA2662@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:18:08AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > These lists are getting close to me just pulling the plug on them. The > amount of crap flying around about them is getting too great for me to > continue to provide such a service to this community. When I pull them, > I'll pull *all* the linux-arm related lists. > Someone else can provide and run the mailing lists. > I estimate that this will happen this evening. Really. Because I don't > see this thread settling down. While I appreciate that this is possibly too little too late, for what it's worth I personally appreciate all the effort you put into the ARM-Linux lists, and I think it would be a great shame to let them turn into the free-for-all bunfight which we know will happen if you relinquish the control you hold. Linux-ARM-Kernel is the only Linux-related mailing list I have left which isn't running on a host I have to whitelist through all of my spam-checking because the lists are so spam-friendly that if I try and spam-check them, I get kicked off for rejecting too much of the mail. I dread to think what will happen to the quality of the code if the vendors are left to push whatever they like into the core. Heck, even the long-term subsystem or arch/mach maintainers sometimes need a push in the right direction, and I doubt that such information and impetus would make it to them if the lists were not well managed. For my $0.02, I hope you find it in you to be able to continue managing the lists as they are, and I am sorry for not piping up a bit earlier. Regards, Daniel. -- Daniel Silverstone http://www.simtec.co.uk/