From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com,
ak@linux.intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [boot crash] Re: [tip:x86/mce3] x86, mce: use 64bit machine check code on 32bit
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:18:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090817091800.GA21269@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A891E17.1090901@jp.fujitsu.com>
* Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >> Could you try boot your laptop with mce=nobootlog?
> >
> > Hm, why should that make any difference? mce=nobootlog only
> > influences whether we pass records into the mcelog buffer but
> > does not affect whether we touch the hardware.
>
> Old mce codes doesn't take bootlog.
I understand what you mean, and i know that we have a number of BIOS
workarounds in the code - but i think some of those workarounds are
wrong and they dont actually solve anything.
The thing is, mce=nobootlog does _not_ keep us from touching MCE
related hardware registers during bootup.
It only inhibits us from doing an mce_log() call:
if (!(flags & MCP_DONTLOG) && !mce_dont_log_ce) {
mce_log(&m);
add_taint(TAINT_MACHINE_CHECK);
}
but an mce_log() call itself only passes on the data we already read
from hardware registers, into the MCE ring-buffer (which is a pure
software construct).
> One possibility is: if the BIOS doesn't clear status in banks,
> new mce codes will try to log such junks.
>
> If the junk is totally junk but can be decoded as a valid log with
> MISCV or ADDRV bit, and if the cpu try to access register which is
> not implemented (e.g. IA32_MCi_MISC/ADDR), then such access might
> cause a general protection exception. (ref. ASDM 3A 15.3.2.3)
>
> I'm just guessing...
My point is that mce=nobootlog will only affect whether we call
mce_log(). It does not keep us from touching all the MSRs that
relate to MCEs.
mce=off does that, and the box boots up fine with that specified
(and as expected).
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-17 9:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <tip-4efc0670baf4b14bc95502e54a83ccf639146125@git.kernel.org>
2009-08-12 11:36 ` [boot crash] Re: [tip:x86/mce3] x86, mce: use 64bit machine check code on 32bit Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 5:00 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2009-08-17 8:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 9:08 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2009-08-17 9:18 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-08-17 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 11:08 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-17 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-22 15:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-23 15:22 ` Andi Kleen
2009-09-23 16:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 10:56 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-17 11:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 11:29 ` [PATCH] x86, mce: Don't initialize MCEs on unknown CPUs Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 11:35 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-17 11:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 13:28 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-17 11:25 ` [boot crash] Re: [tip:x86/mce3] x86, mce: use 64bit machine check code on 32bit Andi Kleen
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